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  1. Rockets34Legend

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    If he begged Lovie to bench Cooks, and Lovie refused.... the Texans should have fired him before the game. Of course, Cooks should've never been on the roster, but Mr. Smartest Guy in the Room overplayed his hand, so...
     
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    Heard one analyst say some have become enamored with the athleticism of Anthony Richardson. He said AR is definitely a first round athletic talent but a third round QB talent.
     
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    I would consider it also to be honest….
     
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    This is accurate, he’s not a day one starter. But he has upside of being a top tier QB. He shoulda stayed in school another year imo
     
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    HOUSTON TEXANS
    Could the Texans pass on an opportunity to draft one of Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud, Will Levis, or Anthony Richardson with the No. 2 overall selection in the 2023 NFL Draft? It’s becoming a possibility that’s being discussed around league circles.

    If so, Texans general manager Nick Caserio must acquire an alternative choice to start under center. Texans fans can’t continue suffering through the Davis Mills experience. New Texans head coach DeMeco Ryans spent the previous two campaigns alongside Lance in San Francisco. Ryans hired Bobby Slowik to be his offensive coordinator. Slowik worked with Lance as San Francisco’s passing game analyst (2021) and coordinator (2022).

    If the Texans are passing on a quarterback for Will Anderson Jr., Ryans, and Slowik could stand on the table for Lance.
     
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    65 or 73, take it or leave it.
     
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    Picking the wrong QB because of bad scouting is... bad. Sure. But it's not the death-knell it used to be. And the Cardinals drafted top 10 QBs, including number 1 overall, in back-to-back years. You can move on from that mistake relatively quickly. There's no investment issue, no egg.

    Really, the only downside is re-allocating valuable asset - a top pick - toward the same position. It's one less stud in your stable. But there isn't a stud more important than QB so if you get the right guy the second time around... all is good.
     
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    I really haven’t watched Lance enough to know whether or not the Texans should trade for him. I’m going to watch some video (hopefully I can find the good and bad) just to try to get a bit of a feel.

    Anyone have any thoughts? Is the potential there for Lance to be good? Of course one positive is Lance knowing much of the Texans offense to be.
     
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    I was high on Lance. He can still turn things around. I'd take him here with arms wide open. One condition though: He has to shave his head. No exception.
    Zidane looked 40 when he was 25 in the 90s carrying that bald patch. He shaved his in the 2000s and still looks young.
     
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    This is starting to remind me of the 2006 draft where Young and Bush were thought to have higher upside but Mario was the safer and better pick.

    Just take Anderson.
     
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    Honestly I might be willing to part with our 2nd rounder for Lance. Anderson, JSN/Bijan, and Lance would be a very nice haul with our first 3 picks. You could trade down a few spots for Tyree Wilson and recoup the 2nd if they like him better.
     
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    I like the trade down scenario. Of course, you couldn’t pull the trigger on Lance until draft day or the value of the 1.2 goes down.
     
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    Slowik and Demeco know him.

    Is he a better prospect than what will be available at 2 or 12?

    What is his price going to be?

    Do the 49'ers think Purdy's small sample size is for real?

    Do the 9'ers have an emotional attachment due to the haul that they sent out to get him which makes his price higher?

    Doubt a deal gets done. Will take an over pay for all scenarios mentioned.

    If the Texans like him and feel he is a better prospect than the guys mentioned. Give them your 2nd which is basically a 1st round pick.
     
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    Pre-draft profile

    3. TREY LANCE | North Dakota State 6037 | 224 lbs. | rSO. Marshall, Minn. (Marshall) 5/9/2000 (age 20.97)

    BACKGROUND: Trey Lance was born and raised in Marshall (a small community 150 miles west of Minneapolis) where he became a standout in baseball, basketball and football at the youth level. He played mostly running back and on defense until he arrived at Marshall High School and became a full-time quarterback as a freshman on the JV squad. After becoming the starting quarterback on varsity as a sophomore, Lance put himself on the recruiting map as a junior and senior while operating a Slot-T offense and leading Marshall to the state playoffs. As a senior, he posted 1,386 passing yards, 641 rushing yards and 24 total touchdowns (14 passing, 10 rushing) and earned All-District and All-State honors. Lance also played on defense and recorded 54 tackles and three interceptions as a senior safety. He finished his prep career with 3,026 passing yards, 1,177 rushing yards and 51 total touchdowns, including a school-record 33 passing scores. Lance was also an All- Conference shooting guard on the basketball team.

    A three-star recruit out of high school, Lance was the No. 49 ranked dual-threat quarterback in the 2018 class and the No. 8 recruit in the state of Minnesota. He didn’t have gaudy high school production and went overlooked as a recruit. Lance wanted to play quarterback at Minnesota, but the Gophers recruited him as a safety. However, FCS-level North Dakota State made him a priority early in the process and Lance committed as a junior. He stayed loyal to that pledge and signed with NDSU even when FBS-level programs like Western Michigan and Boise State offered him in the weeks before signing day. His father (Carlton) played cornerback at Southwest Minnesota State (1988-91) before short stints in the CFL and World League. He also spent time in training camp with the Houston Oilers and San Francisco 49ers. His mother (Angie) attended Southwest Minnesota State. His younger brother (Bryce) signed with North Dakota State in the 2021 recruiting class as a wide receiver. After North Dakota State’s one-game fall season in 2020, Lance elected to skip his final two seasons of eligibility and enter the 2021 NFL Draft.

    STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete who accelerates quickly...boasts a live arm and the ball pops off his hand with velocity, but he also shows the ability to layer throws with touch...natural passing instincts to locate secondary reads...doesn’t panic when the play breaks down and solves problems with his arm or legs...strong presence in the pocket, standing tall and allowing routes to develop...functional scrambling skills and runs with the toughness to break tackle attempts...mature for his age and well-respected in the NDSU program for his competitive nature (offensive tackle Dillon Radunz: “He was one of the hardest workers on the team and now he probably is the hardest worker on the team”)...impressive 2019 production with a 42-to-0 touchdown-to-interception ratio (threw only one interception in his college career); set the NCAA all-divisions record for most pass attempts (287) in a season without an interception...finished his college career with an undefeated 17-0 record (went 20-3 in high school), including the 2019 FCS Championship.

    WEAKNESSES: His accuracy drops when throwing on the run...delivers with balance, but his mechanics tend to get off-schedule...inconsistent deep ball passer, often overthrowing his targets...needs to expand his vision and show better passing anticipation...too many one-read-and-run plays on tape...has the body type to run through contact, but needs to better protect himself vs. NFL defenders...fumbled six times in his career...plays with poise, but faced only one second-half deficit in his college career...limited starting resume with only 17 career starts with zero experience facing FBS-level competition.

    SUMMARY: A one-year starter at North Dakota State, Lance was a dual-threat quarterback in the Bison read-based scheme. He followed in the footsteps of Easton Stick and Carson Wentz, who were both NFL draft picks. A late bloomer at the high school level, Lance had one of the most impressive statistical seasons in college football history in 2019 (42 total touchdowns, zero interceptions), but that is the only full season on his 17-start (all vs. FCS competition) college resume. A unique talent, Lance has the athleticism, arm talent and make-up to be a playmaker. While he takes care of the football, there were too many one-read-and-run plays on film and NDSU relied on the run game as the bread-and-butter of their offense (In his 17 career starts, Lance averaged 18.6 pass attempts per game while the team averaged 45 rush attempts). Overall, Lance is an unprecedented evaluation and will require time as he adjusts to the speed and complexities of the NFL, but his physical traits, poise and intelligence are a rare package for his age and meager experience. He should compete for NFL starting snaps during his rookie season.

    GRADE: 1st Round (No. 7 overall)


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    YEAR (GP/GS) | CP-ATT | CP% | YDS—TD—INT | CAR | YDS—AVG—TD | NOTES
    2018: (2/0)  | 1-1 | 100.0 | 12–0–0 | 8 | 82–10.2–2 | Redshirted
    2019: (16/16)| 192-287 | 66.9 | 2,786–28–0 | 169 | 1,100–6.5–14 | Unanimous All-American; Walter Payton Award; First Team All-MVFC
    2020: (1/1)  | 15-30 | 50.0 | 149–2–1 | 15 | 143–9.5–2 | Only one fall game on the NDSU schedule
    Total: (19/17)| 208-318 | 65.4 | 2,947–30–1 | 192 | 1,325–6.9–18
    
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    YEAR (GP/GS) | CP-ATT | CP% | YDS—TD—INT | CAR | YDS—AVG—TD | NOTES
    2021: (6/2) | 41-71 | 57.7 | 603–5–2 | 38 | 168–4.4–1
    2022: (2/2) | 15-31 | 48.4 | 194–0–1 | 16 | 67–4.2–0 | Fractured right ankle wk. 2
    Total: (8/4) | 56-102 | 54.9 | 797–5–3 | 54 | 235–4.4–1 
     
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    Get star level players and provide competition for Mills.

    Draft your franchise QB in 2024.
     
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