Sure thats a fair observation, but when guys say he's not a capable pocket passer and is only effective as a runner I think bias has taken hold of the conversation. I think the biggest obstacle is his contract demands more than anything. If he wasnt demanding that type of F you money he would have plenty of teams trying to sign him. Again for Big Ben to spout off pocket passing as a casual observer and then when you dive into it you find LJ is a better pocket passer than Big Ben it was just laughingly ironic.
Both of his significant injuries occurred while he was in the pocket, owing more to bad luck than any sort of propensity for injury because of his style of play.
Has Philly reached an agreement with Hurts? Give him a 2022 Astros championship ring and a gold Selena Astros tribute hat and get him over here!
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36214854/source-eagles-qb-jalen-hurts-agree-255m-deal "ONLY" 179Ms guranteed!
So happy and proud for this young man. The jump he made from last season to this one was amazing. Hope he keeps it up, I personally think this is where Lamar should be
The fact he didn’t reach a Super Bowl, you should. I rather a Super Bowl visit from my QB than a MVP. See how Aaron Rodgers turned out.
I’m fairly certain the cost is 2 first rounders. It has to be 1 each year for 2 years. The Ravens don’t set this price, it’s the rules of how his non-exclusive franchise tag works. A team signs him to an offer sheet. If the Ravens don’t match the offer sheet, then they lose Lamar to the team that signed him but get the 2 firsts in return. And from my understanding it has to be that teams actual picks and not picks acquired in a trade. For the Texans that would be the #2 pick and not the 12. This why they wouldn’t even consider this.
The only part of the contract means anything is the guaranteed part. I mean lets say you get a 5 year 250 million deal and only 200 is guaranteed. So lets say the last year is not guaranteed. If you out play your contract you still only get 50 mil in your last year. If you suck you get cut. What is the point of agreeing to the non guaranteed part of the contract. There is basically no upside for you. Patrick Mahomes should have demanded a fully guaranteed 500 million dollar contract. Would have loved to see the chiefs not pay him.
Boils down to player shelf lives. Football is a violent sport with shortest average career with a shtload of injuries. Any given play could seriously hinder future performance. The non guaranteed portion gives owners the warm fuzzies in case it happens.
This is not 100% true. If a player signs their tag, which Lamar is free to do, the teams can negotiate a trade that does not necessarily include two first round picks. For instance, the Ravens may very well see the #2 overall pick as adequate compensation and agree to the deal.
That would change things for me - LJ is a known quantity while the draftees are not. I would do Mac Jones for #65 + #104.
I wonder how the city of Houston would react to an explosive move like that. I'd imagine it would be positive and it's not our money so why not? If our #2 is the only thing sacrificed and our draft capital stayed in tact... count me in.
Rather just trade after the draft. Pick Will Anderson or trade down to get more picks. Then use those picks to trade for Lamar. So basically he cost us nothing but money which we have a ton of. I'll never understand GMs. The panthers gave up soo much to move up to 1 in a weak qb class. They coulda traded less and got a proven MVP.
https://theathletic.com/4427133/2023/04/19/lamar-jackson-ravens-contract-negotiation/ Four ways the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson saga can unfold, from trade to ‘nuclear’ option It’s a great week for the Philadelphia Eagles and quarterback Jalen Hurts … and another dreary one for the Baltimore Ravens and their estranged quarterback, Lamar Jackson. Hurts’ five-year, $255 million contract extension with the Eagles refocused attention on the stalemate between the Ravens and Jackson, with the 2023 NFL draft barely a week away. Though the deal between Hurts and the Eagles had been expected for months, there are no indications a resolution is near for Jackson and the Ravens. Multiple scenarios remain in play, with the draft serving as the next pivot point. With that in mind, I’ve worked through four possible outcomes for the Ravens and Jackson, from a pre-draft trade to a nuclear option. The risks, rewards and tradeoffs associated with each scenario promote a fuller understanding of the dynamics at play. Scenario 1: Pre-draft trade The Houston Texans are the most interesting team heading toward the draft. Beyond rumors that general manager Nick Caserio could depart after the draft, reports have surfaced suggesting the Texans might not select a quarterback with the second pick if Carolina chooses Alabama’s Bryce Young first. This makes little sense on the surface. Young and Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud are quarterbacks widely considered worthy of top-five selections. Houston needs a quarterback. The fact that Stroud employs the same agent who helped orchestrate Deshaun Watson’s acrimonious departure from the organization 13 months ago could be relevant. The Texans could plausibly fear entering into a long-term quarterback marriage with Watson’s agent so quickly as they look to make a clean break from a painful chapter. Jackson could solve the problem for Houston by arming the Texans with an upper-tier quarterback carrying star power to pair with their new defensive-minded head coach, DeMeco Ryans. The Texans hold the second and 12th picks in the draft. Trading one of those selections to Baltimore as part of a package for Jackson could position the Ravens to land an exciting replacement for Jackson in this draft. Jackson has already asked for a trade. Jackson would have to work with the Ravens and any other team to facilitate a deal, which could be tricky, but if team and player conclude the relationship is beyond repair, why prolong their suffering and inevitable divorce? By retaining at least one pick in the top 12 this year, Houston might still be able to land an elite defensive player, which would be ideal for Ryans, without gambling on a college quarterback. The Ravens would extricate themselves from a difficult situation, signing up for three or four seasons of a quarterback on an affordable cookie-cutter deal requiring almost no negotiation. Their new quarterback would pair with their new offensive coordinator, arriving on time to maximize their chances for success in a new era of Ravens football. Scenario 2: Post-draft offer sheet Jackson’s inability to find suitors as a non-exclusive franchise player makes it appear as though the quarterback has overplayed his hand. But the silence Jackson has encountered says as much about the market as it says about Jackson. Fighting for a Watson-type deal would be easier if Jackson were in a Watson-type situation. He is not. Last offseason, Watson leveraged a fully guaranteed five-year deal from Cleveland partly because Houston was publicly committed to trading him, which allowed Watson to operate almost like an unrestricted free agent. Everyone knew Houston had to trade Watson. No one knew the Browns would be desperate enough to pursue Watson until Watson had no choice but to listen. Watson completed a Hail Mary that might never be available to another player. Jackson is operating in a more restrictive environment. The Ravens have not renounced their interest in retaining him. As a result, teams that might sign Jackson to an offer sheet fear Baltimore would exercise its right of first refusal. No one wants to do the Ravens’ negotiating for them. Watson faced no such restrictions last offseason. He had real power. Dynamics could change after the draft. At present, teams signing Jackson to an offer sheet would have to send 2023 and 2024 first-round picks to Baltimore if the Ravens declined to match, per rules governing franchise players. The compensation changes to 2024 and 2025 first-rounders once the 2023 draft passes. Teams could be more willing to risk future assets than current ones, although Baltimore might be proportionally incentivized to match. A post-draft move could make additional sense if the Ravens draft a quarterback with the 22nd pick or somewhere in the first couple rounds. They would then have a viable alternative to Jackson. They do not employ one now. Meanwhile, other teams hoping to land quarterbacks in the draft might not land one, which could motivate them to consider Jackson. Houston and Indianapolis are two obvious candidates to consider Jackson after the draft if they do not use early choices for quarterbacks. Neither employs a higher-profile veteran starter, so pursuing Jackson would not risk damaging existing relationships. Scenario 3: Cooler heads prevail […] Scenario 4: Nuclear option […]
