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Where do you draw the line - transgender

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by droxford, Feb 7, 2023.

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We all draw the line some where. Where do you draw the line?

  1. Society should refer to transgenders using their preferred pronouns

    21 vote(s)
    26.6%
  2. Definitions ("man", "woman", "gender", & "sex") should be changed/eliminated due to transgenders

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  3. It should be permissible for transgenders to share restroom/locker room with their identified gender

    15 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. Transgenders should be able to participate in athletic & other competitions based on their identity

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  5. Transgenders should qualify for loans, grants, scholarships, & admissions based on their identity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Gender-specific organizations should be required to accept transgendrs based on their gender idntity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  7. Historical medical records & birth certificats should be changed to only show transgenders' indntity

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  8. Transgenders <16 yrs should be able to hve sex-reassignmnt surgery/pubrty blockrs w/o parent consent

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  9. The U.S. government should provide finances for sex-reassigned surgeries and puberty-blocking drugs

    5 vote(s)
    6.3%
  10. None of the above

    56 vote(s)
    70.9%
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  1. tallanvor

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    Yes, when I was a kid, they read us puff the magic dragon. I was groomed to be a dragon and for years tried to blow fire. I still identify as a dragon.

    We must stop all grooming of kids. If you have a kid dress up for halloween, you are grooming them to become whatever they dress up as. It should be illegal to let kids pretend or make believe or have any kind of fun - it's all grooming!
     
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    Can't believe someone defends this bizarre child molestation. Leave the kids alone.
     
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    Where did he touch the children?
     
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    Why are these people so keen to get in front of children?
     
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    Do you really think that someone's fetish would be so strong that they'd endure all of the name calling, outright hatred and derision that certain parts of society hurl at them for being transgender? That's one hell of a boner and a lifetime of no post-nut clarity.
     
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    If you search for examples of a group reading to kids, you will find results and believe that it is a characteristic of the whole group. Working in education for over a decade, I have seen zero examples of this in real life. I have heard of 1 example from a live person. Outside of that, nobody I know in education has experienced anything like any of the examples you have shown.

    There are books about it, and some students that use different pronouns. Having exposure and acceptance is a good thing. Breeding intolerance is not.
     
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    More generally speaking, why would anyone want to read to children when there isn't their own child in that group? What is the motivation?
     
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    To volunteer to help children appreciate and enjoy literature and enrich their lives would be my guess. To feel good about helping out students, often in communities where their families are working, split apart, and they don't have adults to model reading and appreciation of literature.
     
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    That's a different discussion and we can have that discussion, but you said this was an act of child molestation. That means a very specific thing.
     
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    Acceptance. LGBTQ community believes that if they can teach children acceptance that there will be less bullying. They aren't trying to groom them to convert, they don't give a crap about that, what they care about is making sure other kids who had to grow up and deal with the pain they did, don't have to. Less bullying makes for a better world. That's their motivation.
     
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    So they are using the children for their own activism. It's an attempt at indoctrination. Parents have a right to object to that.
     
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    Also, note the masks the small children are forced to wear (while the indoctrinating activist doesn't wear one).

    Tells you all about the ideology of that school.
     
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    Acceptance isn't indoctrination.
     
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    Only a completely ignorant person would believe you can groom a child to be gay. They find it more pleasurable to bully, discriminate, tease them, and make them feel bad about themselves, then to just accept the fact that everyone is different. I just don't understand the mentality of people who can't understand that all people are different, and you can't change them into your own mold. People who raise their kids that way are the problem, and not the kids they find peculiar, who aren't hurting them in any way.
     
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    This is consistent with some of the earlier studies as well. We know that transgendered people are more likely to be victims of crime that cis gendered people.

    What I find interesting is that transgendered people are as likely to report crime as cis gendered people. That part does surprise me a little bit.
     
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    Sure if you think all anti-bullying campaigns is indoctrination. Then everything is indoctrination. Telling children to not be violent is indoctrination. Letting kids play video games is indoctrination. School is indoctrinating kids with knowledge.

    What if a parent doesn't want their kid to know how to do long division?
     
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    As an educator, how common is it for drag queens to even volunteer or read books at school?

    My son is now 10, at a very wealthy and overall liberal school and it has never happened at his school.

    There are a few kids that dress as a different gender or which to be called a different gender- but there is no real agenda pushing.

    There are a few lesbian teachers, and there is one transgendered teacher..... but I don't really see any indoctrination.

    IMO schools in part prepare children for the world that we live in, and there are transgendered people, gay people, minority people, etc.... and they all should be exposed to children.
     
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    If it's a teacher, it's a different thing. This looks like these activists really have no business being there; they are only doing this to be activists.

    I wouldn't want my children's school to allow any random outsiders to come in and read to my children. What's their motivation? Clearly, this is pushing an agenda.
     
  20. Nook

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    I think it depends, and that is why I was asking franchise, because he is a teacher.

    Does the school let outsiders come and read to the kids as a common practice?

    Who all reads to the kids?

    What is being read and said?

    I am sure it varies from school to school, but I suspect that there is some similarities.

    I know for example at my local library, they are constantly looking for adults to have reading hour and they will let any adult that signs up do the reading... they give the volunteer what book they want read..... most the volunteers are just parents or retirees but there have been a few biological males that are wearing a dress that have read, but they don't discuss transgenderism or anything else really. I did hear one kid ask why they were wearing a dress, and she said "I like to" and that was the extent of it...... I didn't really have an issue with that.
     

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