the first 4 players in offensive rating in the entire league are from Denver and the next 4 are from Sacramento. The playmaking center as an archetype for an offensive system seems to be better than anything that have been constructed so far. Just like spacing and getting scoring from your pg was the last big revolution, getting playmaking from the center is the next big one. The problem is there are very few of these centers and they all seem to be defensively not so good. Because of the former, not the whole league will go in that direction. But rockets are in a position to do that. In my opinion the defense issue for these bigs is overrated due to many reasons. These two franchises cannot attract very good players and/or don’t have good management. Still they are very good in the regular season with the best offenses. The problem is not the bigs but the supporting cast. I don’t project Sengun to be worse than sabonis at anything. This by itself is enough to invest heavily in sengun. Having Jabari, green, tari, Sengun and a pg grow together might end up in a team much better Than the current kings and nuggets.
Personally, Sengun hasn’t shown me anything that would make me want to bet the house on him. That’s not really a knock on him though as none of the players have shown that to me. A big part of it is coaching or lack thereof. We will see what our next HC (who is hopefully far more competent) thinks. Hopefully it’s not KPJ trying to pretend he’s a PG again otherwise I will have to mail in the season.
I agree with that. We are in the stage to determine if that is something reasonable to do with sengun and/or green. Rockets just wasted a valuable opportunity this season in terms of that. To a smaller extent with green but mainly with Sengun.
I don't know what "bet the house" means. He's not up for a (max) extension yet, so that's moot. We don't have another talented C that we need to get rid off to accommodate Sengun, a la Nurkic/Jokic. There is no All-NBA player on the market that we can have if we only give up AlPe... I see your point, in that we're not talking Luka or Ja type unquestionable cornerstone. But I also think we can bet cautiously a little bit more in terms of higher usage and more featuring, to see if he can become one of these Top Dog guys...
Yeah i wouldn't bet the house on anyone on this roster rn. I don't think we have any future superstar. I'm talking about true superstars like Durant, Lebron, Giannis etc. i don't think none of them will develop into one in the future so we have to form a functional bb team with what we have to become competitive in the future. The unfortunate fact is that you are very unlikely to win everything without a true superstar. That's why i'm really really interested in Kings. I just need them to show me that they can reach the finals.
This team doesn’t have a franchise player. Any of these guys can go for a young star/superstar. I would only try to hold on to 2-3 young players. Rebuilds are tough and you can’t get attached to any young player. Look at how Embiid is the last one left from the process. Look how the lakers dealt Randle, DLo, Ball, Clarkson, Zubac, Ingram, Hart, and I’m sure I’m missing someone. Young guys get dealt! Maybe we can be Memphis or GSW and new HC can turn it around, but we’ll have to see
Great point. As much as I like our young core of Jalen, Jabari, and Sengun there is no guarantee that any of them will stay Rockets. In fact in today's NBA the odds are greater that they don't. Drafting Yao changed the trajectory of this team and pieces that were cornerstones no longer fit, so the Rockets retooled. After the first championship, the Rockets decided to trade young pieces, that really fit to bring Clyde home and make a run for a championship with Clyde and Dream. Similar circumstances could occur if we get lucky enough to draft Wemby or if Jaylen Brown (doubt it) decides to move. I agree, no one currently would be my franchise player, but I still hold out hope that with continued development one of them could be. Or we could be a better version of Sac-town... Green>Fox ... Sengun>Sabonis... Jabari>Murray. Which is why I'm watching that series intently. Worked for the first game
Even more interesting is that the allure of these highly skilled bigs is still overshadowed in the playoffs by great playmaking 3 level scorers on their respective teams (Fox, Murray, Harden). Post play will not drive wins during the postseason in the modern NBA no matter how much the purists hope and pray. It will help get you there, but if these guys are - defenders (which they are) they can get schemed off the court and relegated to support players.
You do realize that "Minus defender, support player" Jokic's team, has defeated "3x DPOY" Gobert's team by 30, right?
Post play can contribute to a playoff win but it's not gonna b the sole/main dominant factor like it was back then. There's a reason y folks wants a real pg this entire season. It's unrealistic to have your whole offense b around sengun, it's way too predictable delivering him the ball and having a real pg that can playmake, allows him to utilize senguns strength while also b an option to control the offense. Kpj ain't it at pg, if he was our offense wouldn't b sht.
Why bring up KPJ? LOL if you're trying to say that teams dont need traditional roles at the point guard position I agree. If you are saying teams need "stars" there I disagree. Sengun will get isolated time after time after time in the playoffs and run off the court until he can demonstrate an ability to keep defenders in front of him AND be able to switch responsibilities on the fly. Same for Sabonis. Same for Jokic and to a lesser degree Embiid. You just cant trade 6 foot shots with teams that utilize the 3 point line as a threat with bad defenders in the process. None of these guys will ever drive the cart in meaningful games - they are just going along for the ride. Dynamite scorers who are above average defenders and have a decent playmaking ability will drive outcomes in playoff games. FWIW I think Giannis is an outlier as the best big man in the sport because he plays a face up game without much of an outside shot. Is Sengun better than Giannis? Sengun comes back next year with a consistent outside shot his whole career arc changes. Its on him not anyone else.
U brought up pgs. I just further expanded onto it that those big men has actual guards who can playmake. If we have one Instead of kpj we would b doing much better Big men with jokic ability can drive the cart what nonsense are u going on about. Man is literally the mvp of the league, man isnt just going along for the ride. Big men with post game can succeed in the league they won't b as dominant like in the 90s since folks are now great sharpshooter but they aren't dead weight.
The bigger problem is that KPJ isnt near enough of a good defender to hide Sengun. edit: wake me up when any of these big men (Sans Giannis who has already done it) win a ring being the 1st and last option for a team. Denver had to literally sell out with defenders and 3pt shooters around Jokic to make it work.
