I think we should just bypass the season, give the championship to whichever team is projected to win the most games and move immediately to next year’s draft. You do realize this number you constantly throw out is purely a guess, right?
This moron has Anderson as the 5th best edge rusher in this class. So much for his credibility in evaluating talent. Sorry, I posted without realizing someone else had already posted this fact.
I may have mis-remembered about Phil Simms although he had Zack Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. I don’t want Stroud if the rumors of his S2 score are true. His stats under pressure are also abysmal, which kind of supports the S2 assessment. I think the Texans want Bryce and if he is not there they will trade down if they can find a partner. I think they should be able to with Seattle, Atlanta, or Las Vegas or another sleeper like NE.
Texans were pretty competitive in a couple more games last season so their win total could easily have been 5.5. I reckon we can realize those extra couple of wins plus some. Figuring on at least 6 wins, we may be picking around 6th or seventh or more and with several teams still needy for a top QB, they just may not budge. We simply can not bank on getting a top guy. We may not pick this high again for many years.
We also might set this franchise and Coach back years by taking anyone not named Young at 2. Stroud is not worth it
The season hasn't started yet? and are we going to ignore that he is a QB and may know what he is talking about? Josh McCown felt the same. Not sure why people dislike Stroud so much.
https://sports.nbcsports.com/2023/0...s-c-j-stroud-leads-the-way-and-a-tie-at-no-5/ Simms’ Top Six QB prospects in the 2023 NFL Draft Tier One 1. C.J. Stroud, Ohio State: What Simms Said: “This is as close to Joe Burrow as I’ve seen coming out in the draft here. I mean, when you just talk about great decision-making, quickness…when you talk about hitting the bullseye on a consistent basis, C.J. Stroud’s ability to make high-level throws and just drop the ball in receiver’s pockets, hit them in the chest, wherever, it’s off the charts good…his arm is better than Burrow’s was coming out…his throwing, especially with the ability to power throw and put the ball into tight windows time after time after time, I’d actually give him the advantage over Joe Burrow in that department.” Spoiler From video: Tier Two 2. Bryce Young, Alabama: What Simms Said: “He’s as natural at playing the position as you’re going to see, he makes so many great quarterback plays. He, just like C.J. Stroud, the brain is on another level, their ability to read defenses, see the field, throw the appropriate throw, knowing when to stop a guy… he’s about as slick as you’re going to see. He’s a natural throwing the football… he’s smart, he understands defenses… the pocket is getting tight like it does in the NFL… he might throw it, but it’s never real accurate or he throws it just to get it out of his hand so he doesn’t get hit or sacked… he the smaller quarterback, when he gets hit sometimes, it looks super aggressive cause his body flies… those are the concerns, that’s why he’s not number one, but man there’s a lot to like.” 3. Hendon Hooker, Tennessee: What Simms Said: “Why is this guy not getting more buzz? What is there not to like?… All I know is I saw a really good looking, on the money, pocket-passing quarterback who makes great decisions and like C.J. Stroud is way more athletic than people are giving him credit for. And, where he might be even better than C.J. Stroud and definitely better than Bryce Young, his ability to see over the line and throw over the line… totally unaffected by the pass-rush…he’s consistently on the money throwing in to tight coverage…if you’re going off film, I don’t know how he’s not in the top quarterback conversation.” Tier Three 4. Anthony Richardson, Florida: What Simms Said: “This guy’s arm is off the charts good…is there a little boom or bust here with Anthony Richardson? Of course. His ceiling is probably the highest ceiling in the draft. His floor, though, out of the guys we are going to talk through today it might be the lowest floor too. It could be that…there’s some games and some plays where you go man his eyes are all over the place and I’m not sure what he’s looking at… but then there’s other games where you go I mean he’s on the money and his eyes are right in the perfect spots… you’re not going to want to rely on him like you would Hendon Hooker or Bryce Young or C.J. Stroud to go hey we’re looking to throw it 38 times today…this is the kind of guy where you get him on your team you go we’re looking to throw it 24 times today and we want maybe 8 rushes from you.” Tier Four T-5. Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA: What Simms Said: “Taller than Bryce Young, faster than Bryce Young, think his arm might be stronger than Bryce Young. He plays the position of quarterback right up there with the top guys in the sport. I mean he can do everything…he has a little bit of a long wind-up, maybe doesn’t see the field as well as C.J. Stroud and Bryce Young…I would argue that going through reads and seeing the field other than Stroud and Young he’s the next best one in the group, even maybe better than Hendon Hooker in that department… his mechanics are great, his feet is great, he’s got a really natural, fluid motion… so I’m just shocked I look at lists and there’s fifteen quarterbacks and this kid’s thirteen…this kid’s got starting quarterback NFL traits.” T-5. Will Levis, Kentucky: What Simms Said: “I like Will Levis, and I’m totally in the reality of like Will Levis could certainly go in the top ten, twelve picks in the draft… he’s got a little bit of the boom, bust factor here. He does, and maybe even less of a bust…first off, the positives, his size, his toughness, it’s off the charts… laser show. He can throw in lasers like C.J. Stroud or Richardson. The problem is, it’s too few and far between… it’s just a little too all over the place, the ball itself and the mechanics. Both of it. And, out of the decision-making, he’s kind of toward the bottom of the list in that department too.”
Nothing against Stroud. Just pointing out Simms is one voice in the darkness that doesn’t have a great track record with his predictions. I repeat, anyone who has Anderson as the 5th best edge rusher in this class knows nothing about evaluating talent.
Getting Seattle to give up 5 and 20 and maybe a 5th for 1.2 would be amazing. You can feel a lot of holes maybe even QB with 5,12,20, 33, two thirds, a fourth, 2 fifths, 3 sixths, and 2 7ths
No one, no one, is ever an absolute lock. The only knock against Young is size. Everyone says if he was 6’ 2” he is the no questions asked runaway #1 pick. To me, that says his talent is superior to anyone else in this draft.
Season hasn't played out and he isn't the only one saying this. There are several NFL analyst, former players who have commented on Stroud being the best of the group. Its ok to like another guy, I have no issue with that. But people dismissing him as Jared Goff are just putting lazy analysis out there imo. All I can say is watch the tape. Bryce Young is no where near as quick through reads while on the field. We can throw out an S2 test all we want but you don't have to look over giant lineman to score well on an S2 test. I don't understand. Now we are going to ignore Young's height as maybe being an issue reading NFL defenses? Why do you think Kyler Murray struggles so much in obvious passing situations? I am not dogging Young, but using an S2 to predict NFL success is ridiculous.
Spoiler https://sports.nbcsports.com/2023/0...bijan-robinson-and-jahmyr-gibbs-top-the-list/ Tier One Bijan Robinson, Texas Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama Tier Two 3. Roschon Johnson, Texas Tier Three 4. Sean Tucker, Syracuse 5. Chase Brown, Illinois https://sports.nbcsports.com/2023/0...ings-zay-flowers-jaxon-smith-njigba-top-list/ Tier One 1. Zay Flowers, Boston College 2. Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Ohio State Tier Two 3. Quentin Johnston, TCU 4. Michael Wilson, Stanford Tier Three 5. Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee https://sports.nbcsports.com/2023/0...ankings-dalton-kincaid-a-tier-above-the-rest/ Tier One 1. Dalton Kincaid, Utah Tier Two 2. Sam LaPorta, Iowa Tier Three 3. Michael Mayer, Notre Dame 4. Josh Whyle, Cincinnati 5. Darnell Washington, Georgia Edge 1. Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech 2. Luke Van Ness, Iowa 3. Nolan Smith, Georgia 4. Will McDonald IV, Iowa State 5. Will Anderson Jr., Alabama https://sports.nbcsports.com/2023/0...on-witherspoon-highlights-loaded-draft-class/ Tier One 1. Devon Witherspoon, Illinois 2. DJ Turner, Michigan 3. Christian Gonzalez, Oregon Tier Two 4. Deonte Banks, Maryland Tier Three 5. Kelee Ringo, Georgia
Sorry, every analyst says Bryce is the very best at making the reads and knowing where the ball should go. That dog won’t hunt
Size is a big concern imo. And yes, if he was 6'2 and could fly through reads he would absolutely be the number 1 pick. I don't doubt that.
Yeah I'm hoping for Young but it seems Carolina is the favorite for his services. If so, take Anderson at #2. He's the safe bet there. After that is where the GM and staff earn their keep.
