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Justice Clarence Thomas has secretly accepted luxury trips from a major Republican donors

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Apr 6, 2023.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I think regardless of these latest revelations he's still only guilty of not reporting gifts. People are saying kick him off the court but nobody is accusing him of being bought. Whatever you think of his politics and rulings essentially they are just conservative.

    I think people accept that his judgements are conservative because he's conservative. I guess the house can impeach him but the hose is Republican. It would take a lot to give up a justice especially when the President is a Democrat
     
  2. astros123

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    "Not reporting gifts" what do you think tax evasion and money laundering is exactly?
     
  3. pgabriel

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    I think regardless of these latest revelations he's still only guilty of not reporting gifts. People are saying kick him off the court but nobody is accusing him of being bought. Whatever you think of his politics and rulings essentially they are just conservative.

    I think people accept that his judgements are conservative because he's conservative. I guess the house can impeach him but the hose is Republican. It would take a lot to give up a justice especially when the President is a Democrat
    Yes I agree on tax evasion as far as potential crimes but we are far from that being an official charge and money laundering gets thrown around about Trump also, but he may have not disclosed the property sales but those sales aren't being hidden from official government agencies that should be in the know.

    Harlen Crow doesn't need any money laundered and I don't think people are accusing Thomas of hiding these transactions other then obviously not reporting them in disclosures
     
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    Of course you might be very wrong. He's absolutely accused of being bought and basing judicial decisions on his own gains
     
  5. pgabriel

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    When I watch msnbc or look up latest news no one says he was bought. Again he's conservative and all his decisions are conservative.
     
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    You see it how you see it.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Why don't you show me the accusations?
     
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    "people are saying" exactly that.
     
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    No they aren't. Sweet Lou tried to link cases to Crow but he hasn't been involved directly in a case and that accusation would be a stretch.

    No media outlet doubts Thomas's beliefs, his decisions have followed his beliefs
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    The first ball to be in play is a few minor real estate deals between the two, I'm sure there was not anything more than that, at all, ever.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...arlan-crow-unreported-real-estate-transaction
     
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  12. pgabriel

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    While these are more serious transgressions it still boils down to Thomas's secrecy. There still isn't an accusation of Thomas giving him special treatment.

    Who knows what this guy's fondness for Thomas is about in total. Obviously Thomas being considered the most conservative justice guys like Crow are happy with him. While it's more suspect getting cash it still seems to be about a guy wanting to take care of him
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    I’m going to do something very rare for D&D and the internet in general.

    I’m changing my mind.

    I was very against the idea of court packing but given the recent revelations regarding not just Thomas but the lack of transparency and accountability on the court something major needs to be done. If adding more justices can blunt the power of any individual justice we might have to do that to restore the legitimacy of the court.
     
  14. StupidMoniker

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    Would you feel the same way if Donald Trump was President and the Republicans controlled the Senate?
     
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    That was my concern why I was against court packing that it would turn into just another partisan maneuver. I still think that is a danger but I think the current problems with the court of lack of transparency and accountability make it more of a problem.

    So yes I think even with a different President and Senate this would be worth the risk.
     
  16. Amiga

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    The political support is there.

    If I were the Democrat, I would make court reform targeting the rogue and illegitimate Crow Court a key issue to regain control of the House and retain the Senate, in order to enact necessary reforms. The Court needs to be truly unbiased, and there should be absolutely no appearance of influence. Throw in the basic right to abortion and the basic safeguard against gun violence to increase political support.
     
  17. jo mama

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    how about instead of court packing we just have term limits for SC justices? the idea of a life-time appointment has always seemed anti-democratic to me anyway.

    12 year term, anyone?
     
  18. astros123

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    Adding justices doesn't solve the root problem of partisan judges. We need to create a better method for confirming and appointing judges that isn't so partisan.

    There should be no republican or democratic judges. The entire system is messed up
     
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    Yea it’s ****ing stupid
     
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  20. pgabriel

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    The problem with Thomas isn't his politics, it's his arrogance in terms of this, not I over turning Roe v Wade

    Judges are people and things go to the Supreme Court a lot when differing beliefs cause different interpretations
     

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