Bill Simmons: Jaylen Brown wants to be traded to Houston?

LOL, are you trying to compare body types, or talent? One matters A LOT more than the other.

 

If you can get that kind of upgrade, only trading non-star caliber players, you do it in a heartbeat.

Like I said, if they aren't as delusional as you are when it comes to Jalen, you trade KPJ and Sengun....either way you make the deal.

 

I wouldn't say Green will be at that level, but we don't know what the final product will be yet for a guy who just turned 21 and has played only 143 games in his career.

Good thing Milwaukee didn't give up on Giannis either after he averaged 9.8 points and 5.6 rebounds his first two seasons combined at roughly the age Green has been his first two years in the league.

 

I think we do know that he won't be anywhere near that level. He could eventually become a net positive player....maybe even eventually becoming a good player, but we know based on what we've seen, there's literally no chance he's in the conversation for GOAT or even MVP. He just doesn't have that kind of talent.

Giannis was an example of a "baby deer' type, not yet grown into his freakish body. That's not Jalen.

That's why it's hard to even talk to the extremists who deadass believe Green is the next MJ despite all evidence to the contrary. It's so patently absurd that no serious conversation can happen with that as a starting point. You have to come a bit closer to sanity to facilitate productive conversation.

 

Okay then. Kobe's first two seasons:
11.7 points, 2.5 rebounds, 1.9 assists

Clyde Drexler's first two seasons:
12.4 points, 4.4 rebounds, 3.7 assists

James Harden's first two seasons:
11.1 points, 3.2 rebounds, 2.0 assists

Tracy McGrady's first two seasons:
8.0 points, 4.8 rebounds, 1.9 assists

But sure, tell me about how you have perfect knowledge of the future and you know for absolute, 100% certain Jalen Green won't become one of the greats because he didn't light the world on fire as a 19-20 year old rookie/sophomore in the league.

(Again, I'm not saying he will be, I'm saying I don't know, and it's not crazy at all say say a #2 overall pick with his physical tools has that potential.)

 

....and they double down on that absurdity. SMH.

 

Yes, it's utterly absurd to say that a #2 overall draft pick who was a consensus top 3 prospect in his class purely for his potential could maybe become a superstar if he continues to develop. Totally absurd. That never happens in the NBA.

 

Neither of all those players was the #1 option on a all rookie rebuild either. They came in where other vets were scoring. Those players came off the bench.

Stupid people can't even understand that rockets have no vets out there. Mcgrady was the # 1 option on this team he would had **** ton of ppg people think he be the next AI, but that team would of blown balls..

Rockets have a all rookie ball club out there. Lol

 

Your measuring barometer is skewed

You talk about chuckers as if MJ was perfect, when he wasn't:
MJ..age..3P%
Age 21 (.173)
Age 22 (.167).....using your logic, you probably would have dumped MJ after year two in the NBA
Age 23 (.182)
Age 24 (.132)
Age 25 (.276)

Again, I said someone is ahead of another at age at similar body structure.
Jalen is ahead when it comes to three tier level scoring over MJ at that age.

We don't know about defense yet as the Rockets have been tanking and no
real rim protector behind either KPj or Jalen Green.

Rookie Jordan had Orlando Woodridge (3 yrs), Caldwell Jones (11 yrs),
Dave Corzine (6 yrs), jawann Oldham (4 yrs) backing him up.
Corzine and Woodridge would knock you on your #$$ if you
went in the paint.

Bulls brought in Charles Oakley the next season. You fail to
acknowledge the NBA let you hand check and mug a guy back then.

 

Celtics wouldn't want the lesser asset in KPJ and seems like Green would be the headliner.

 

Hope no trade will be happen. Otherwise it is certain that Celt's FO is going to outclass novice Rox's FO.

 

All this cuz of what Simmons mumbled, with no real context? OK....

 

All this hype for a joke GM? If players want to come here & play with our young core, then Stone's done his job very well

 

Well you have to give to get, takes two to tango, and if they were as incompetent as you are about analyzing talent, the Celtics would have jumped on the so called best player when the Cavs gave him away for a 50th pick, nothing much has changed about his floor game from then to now

I mean a trio of KPJ/Brown/Tatum would have teams shaking in their boots, now that is delusional at its apex

 

KPJ basically has no value in this trade, I think Celtics will probably want him excluded. Honestly this seems like a one way pipe dream anyway, I don't think Celtics would think Green, Jabari is even enough. Sengun is probably the most coveted out of the 3.

We overate our players like crazy

 

But if Brown wants Houston as Simmons says and tells them he will only sign an extension with Houston - that limits the Celts and the only place they can get real value is Houston....and we have a lot of draft capital to help with the trade as well as a 21 year old SG in Green....

DD

 

Jabari + KPJ + KJ + multiple picks

C: Sengun
PF: Wemby
SF: Brown
SG: Green
PG: Harden

 

That is too much to give up for Brown......KPJ and KJ + Picks or Green +KJ plus picks, but not a big, IMHO.

DD

 

Is he still represented by Kanye’s agency?

 

Yikes, Brown is clearly not as good as many here think he is. He’s a top 20-25 guy - in the Sabonis/Brunson tier - not a top 10 guy.

I think the fact that the Celtics put together an incredibly talented team is hiding this.

If the Rockets get Wemby and Harden then sure throw Jabari/Sengun/picks for him. Otherwise, you don’t give up assets for the luxury of giving out a bad contract.