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Bill Simmons: Jaylen Brown wants to be traded to Houston?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Apr 13, 2023.

  1. fchowd0311

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    He has a usage rate of 31% and for two seasons straight. Yes his defense catapulted him to be a better player now but Green just reaching competent defender would be enough with his offensive trajectory
    If you think Green repeated his rookie year that's absurd man.
     
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  2. Le$$

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    If you get Brown, i think Green becomes redundant. Kpj pretty much can score.

    Green Eason 2 first would get it done i suppose. Still hard to trade Green he is explosive scorer, but lacks the intangibles that Brown brings to the table, including lock down defense.
     
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  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I feel like in any scenario he'd be more of a SF, because I think in most instances you'd be keeping one of KPJ or Green.

    The defensive woes of guys like Harden or KPJ and ESPECIALLY Jalen Green can't be overlooked, but with Brown and Smith on the court you'd have 2 competent defensive players to help stop the bleeding a bit.
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Depends on what you can sell Boston on. If I'm them, I definitely want KPJ and Sengun....the two best players on the Rockets, but if we can sell them on flash and hype, maybe we can keep one of our best 2 guys and sub Green instead.

    It's all about the sales job.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    When you say "including knock down defenses" what else are you referring to? Because he's a worse playmaker than Green.
     
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    If Simmons is right then based on the narrative that Harden works out with Green and admires his weak off the ball/horrible defense(your thoughts), and Brown wants to link up with Harden then that would make Green the odd man in

    Banchero wanted to get drafted by Htown because of Green based on narratives created

    And if Celtics fans were to use your evaluation for Green then they would immediately hang up the phone or tell you they want the best player on a twenty win team as a staring point if they are going to trade their two way all star, not for some chucker who sucks at defense

    So you can't put Green(ie. Brewer) in any of your trade proposals because he sucks, you are stuck with Green, so root for him, flaws n all
    That is exactly what you would be dealing, the flash/hype of the two so called best players on twenty win team for a sure fire NBA caliber all star and all NBA player

    You can try and sell whatever, but the buyer has to want to make that purchase and most definitely would not want the worst defender in the NBA and Corey Brewer-esque, no matter the hype/flash

    Even you can't be this incompetent to think otherwise.....
     
  7. burlesk

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    yeah, cuz I sure as hell ain't listening to Blowhorst and BS any more than I have to.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    I guess we can just hope that there are some suckers in the Celtics FO like there are on this board.

    Let's face it, all we need is one person in the Celtics FO to be like @fchowd0311 and maybe we could trade Green for Brown AND get back the next 7 available Celtics first round picks.

    None of us know exactly what the asking price would be, but I think we should be optimistic at this point in the year because there's no harm in it.
     
  9. ApacheWarrior

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    Both MJ and Jale. Green have their birthdays in February.

    Here is MJ a couple of months before he turned 21 (last yr of college)
     
  10. ApacheWarrior

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    Both MJ and Jalen Green have their birthdays in February.

    Here is MJ about a month before he turned 21 (last yr of college)


    Now here is Jalen Green a couple months before his 21st birthday.
    Notice the bodies, mannerisms, speed, smoothness of both


    I'm sticking with Jalen Green over Jaylen Brown. You don't want to be
    that guy that had Jalen Green and then let him go so he could
    dominate the league. Nope !!
     
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    I would keep Green. They can have KPJ for sure. They can have Josh Christopher, Usman Garuba and Tyty Washington or D. Nix. I'll add picks to any of that.
     
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    Hoo boy yes, that 0.2 more APG by Green just puts him on a different plane.

    I know you live in Boston, but here is a PSA for you and a few others:

    the guy who is about to make All-NBA is better than the guy who got 0 votes.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    PSA I never.made any claims like that other than Green is barely by a smidge a better playmaker now as a second year than a vet. That's all.
     
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    I honestly can't tell if you are joking or not.

    The Jalen Green fanbois are literally beyond parody so you have to spell it out if this is you making fun of them.
     
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    Jordan was just getting lobs behind an LSU zone defense (vs amateurs)

    Jalen is going up against pros.

    Your mindset is warped
     
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    Lets face it, its more likely Stone would wait until Brown contract runs out and try to grab him on open market than trade his prized lotto picks this early in the process

    I Am using your evaluation on Green, and based on that the Celtics GM would laugh and tell you to hold on and keep you on hold until you finally realize he's not coming back to the phone

    You happen to be of that sucker group to think you are trading( from your own diatribe evaluation) the worst defender and Inefficient chucker/Corey Brewer-esque caliber for all star/NBA Brown

    Its basically like you punk'd yourself saying how horrible Green is but thinking you could include such a worthless player for a all NBA caliber player

    Deep down you must really be enamored with Greens high ceiling/potential
     
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    isnt jalen green signed to adidas, who is jaylen brown signed with. we all know harden likes to play with adidas guys
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Okay, so you're literally delusional enough to be comparing Jalen Green to MJ?

    LOL fair enough, at least we had this "mask off" batshit insane moment.
     
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    His shooting is actually worse than last season. 2p%, 3p%, eFG%, and TS% are all down. How is it absurd?

    The only improvement was getting to the line more. But even that could not boost his efficiency. He scored 4.8 points more by shooting 3.7 more attempts.

    Yes, from eye test, he seems to have better understanding of the game. But his shooting is as shaky as his rookie year, if not worse.
     
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  20. ApacheWarrior

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    I pegged Jalen Green as a leaner MJ/Kobe
    of our era before the draft.

    Said Green would get to about 185 pounds in year 2
    (Before draft)

    Said Green would get to around 190 for year 3
    (Before draft)

    Told people he would be a little light in his pants the first two seasons....then start owning this league.

    Problem is nobody challenged MJ until Kobe
    in size and athleticism, so MJ was head and shoulders above his peers.

    Jalen Green has Morant, Ant-Man and others extremely fit and athletic and shooting 3's from grade school.

    Jalen will be nose above water among his peers.
    Unlike Jordan. Green is on line with my projections..
    Had him at 25 points per game this past season but it looked like he hit a rookie wall again after 30 games.
    That goes with driving in the paint vs NBA defenses and being 182 pounds.

    Teams game plan vs #1 Green first....then KPj next. Just my opinion. Both KPj and Green are amazing try to drive vs a packed paint with little to no 3-pt shooters providing air cover.
     
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