Bill Simmons: Jaylen Brown wants to be traded to Houston?

It is not about patience at all, it is about being in the right place with the right assets to pull the trigger when the time is right.

Patience is the Sacramento Kings - where you struggle for 20 years until you get that one lucky draft pick.....if we want to wait for 5-10 more years sure, keep on drafting and hope that some 19 year old is the next MJ,,,,,

If you want to start competing now, strike with all that capital and build a competitive roster ASAP.

Green and a pick for Brown and you sign Harden - this is what your lineup looks like next year.

PG - Harden
SG - KPJ
SF - Brown
PF - Bari
C - Sengun

That is shot making all up and down the court and would be a hard team to beat.

And this is not a knock on Green at all, just think the Celtics would want our highest ranked player in return.

DD

 

Yeah I think that goes without saying, I wouldn't do a deal for Brown without the knowledge of a longer term contract being signed immediately afterwards.

It also depends on what happens in the draft.

The complaint all season long was that there weren't enough vets on the team, going and getting Brown would be just that. if you can flip Jalen for Jaylen, you do it....especially since that could lead to a scenario where James Harden signs too making your team go straight from tanking to the playoffs in one offseason.

The point is that you don't say no to trading for a 26-27 year old star due to not wanting to move someone like Green, Sengun, Smith, or KPJ. No one on the team is good enough to be safe.

 

this is nothing more than a random dart throw

 

Simply ask yourself this question to see how your logical consistencies hold up.

Would you say the same thing about second year Brown if he was on the team. Would he hypothetically be included in a "guys that aren untouchable for 26 year old Brown".

 

Kinda funny watching DD and Bobby want something so bad that's not going to happen, knowing they're going to end up disappointed.

There are so many reasons this isn't going to happen.

1. Boston isn't going to trade Brown, if there's even any truth to him being unhappy (which I doubt based on his recent comments in interviews), they'll find a way to appease him. Too good of a situation for them to throw in the towel.
2. Brown is not the right age/contract to fit our timeline. He is already in his prime at age 26 and is on an expiring deal and about to get paid $Texas. The Rockets either need veterans on 2-3 year deals to mentor the kids and preserve cap flexibility, OR they need a guy under 25 whose prime years will line up with our core.
3. Bill Simmons is talking out his ass and I don't believe for a second Brown wants to play here, and they're not going to trade for him without assurances he'll re-up.
4. Brown is not good enough to carry a championship contender. He is around the 20th best player in the league. He is already taking 21 shots a game, 8th most in the NBA, so he's had plenty of opportunity to show he can be a true lead scoring option, and he ain't it. If Jaylen Brown is your best player, you're on the mediocrity treadmill, and the front office knows this. They won't trade the farm for a guy like that.
5. Even if Brown gets traded, do you really believe the Rockets are best-positioned to acquire him? He'll go somewhere with better assets to trade. We can't outbid a team like OKC and even have the slightest semblance of a real team left over.

It's not happening.

Give it up.

 

Would people here trade 20 year old Brown for 26 year old Brown?

 

The timeline? LOL - you don't have to have everyone be the same age.....this accelerates the timeline.....Hell EVERY YEAR the Timeline resets based upon your roster.....oh man that is rich.

Boston may or may not trade him, but Simmons says him wanting Houston is interesting, and if true, we should pounce.

You don't know how good Brown is or isn't....Harden wasn't good enough when we got him either, right?

5. Yes....we have the capital to get him.

YES - and fixed the age for you - AGAIN!


DD

 

Only reason I would trade jabari is cause sengun can play center if we get wemby, cause wemby and jabari both won't play center, I just don't see why those ppl hate green that much especially he's not in the best situation yet.. it's like ppl don't have patience..you pair harden brown green together ..

I like jabari as I said but I think he will have more value to Celtics than sengun,

Jabari, kpj, Tate,

 

I'm not a player only or player first fan, so there would of course have been a trade I would have been willing to make for him at that time. He showed a lot more promise in his sophomore season than Green did though, so it would have to be a better deal than what I'd look to get for Green though.

If Green was a fairly efficient 2 way player capable of hitting nearly 40% of his 3's, I'd be a lot higher on him right now.

 

Only reason I would trade jabari is cause sengun can play center if we get wemby, cause wemby and jabari both won't play center, I just don't see why those ppl hate green that much especially he's not in the best situation yet.. it's like ppl don't have patience..you pair harden brown green together ..

I like jabari as I said but I think he will have more value to Celtics than sengun,

Jabari, kpj, Tate, kjm and if right situation then Eason.. I think is moveable

 

uhhh yeah ?? Lol

if the Celtics had traded 25 year Old brown for old ass harden they probably would have won the finals .

 

It's not about having everyone be the same age. It's about "when will the Rockets contend and who will help us the most at that time". The Rockets are not contending next season, nor the one after that, whether they have Brown or not. Brown doesn't want to spend 2 years of his prime at a non-contender, and we don't want to pay a superstar to be here for 2 years when we're not contending. That's a recipe for mediocrity and problems.

When we traded for Harden, he was 23 years old and about to enter his prime, and Morey somehow managed to pry him away for a pupu platter of spare parts and mediocre picks. Completely different situation. Harden was looking for something different from what Brown is looking for, and the Rockets were in a different situation where they are now, with no elite prospects and mandated to find a way to contend without tanking.

Get over it DD. We're not trading for Jaylen Brown. We won't give up what it would take, Boston would not take what we have to give, and Brown won't want to be here. He's probably staying in Boston, and if he somehow doesn't, he'll go to a better-positioned team.

 

I don’t get it and I love Green! If his ceiling is Beal or LaVine, JB is better than both of em

 

Would you trade 20 year old Brown for 26 year old Brown if you are the Rockets who just won 22 games and aren't looking to win a ring for another half decade?

 

His ceiling isn't either of those two. Those two are reasonable players Jalen Green could max out as if he has some basic work ethic issues.

 

It's just how player first and player only fans are.

Watching them throw a tantrum at the mere thought of their deity getting traded for a superior player is high tier comedy though.

 

No he didn't show more promise as a sophmore lol.

Ask yourself what you would say about Green now if he averaged more turnovers than assists. Ask yourself how you would treat Green of his scoring efficiency was the same as KPJ while having a KMJ shot profile (off ball cutter, open catch and shoot player, open space transition buckets getter)

 

I guess you didn’t read what I said. If it was Green and a non 1-2 pick this year, then it is something to consider. It is 100% about patience and making sure you get the right deal, not just blowing up your plan for immediate gratification of winning 30-40 games next year. I’m obviously more confident than our big 3 with potential. I’m also high on KPJ if he plays a different position and gets his attitude straightened up. The other part of patience is we don’t know how good our guys can be, because of the sh*t coach.

 

Idk man, those 2 are really good. I’d be happy if green hit that level

 

Why? Have you seen what second year Beal looked like? He had the same off ball scoring profile of Brown and was scoring at like 51% ts.