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The 2023 Baseball Season - Things to Come

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Nov 6, 2022.

  1. lnchan

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    I think we should start expecting Evan Gattis to enter rehab this season...
     
  2. marks0223

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    That's a shame...

     
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  3. mvpcrossxover

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    anyone following this evan gattis twitter floodgate?
     
  4. marks0223

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    Yuli with #1 on the season

     
  5. lnchan

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    It makes Wild Thing Vaughn look stable.
     
  6. jjsmooth

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    Spill all the beans, man
     
  7. lnchan

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    The usual... Altuve didn't cheat... Gattis did... may have used steroids when shelling Kershaw because Dodgers were too dumb to change their signs.
     
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    Joe Kelly sprained his vagina?
     
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    A giant dick sprained his groin, news at 11
     
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    The stolen base number is inching down closer to the break even point. Should someone tell managers that breaking even should not be the goal?
     
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    Break even can be fine if it's enough volume to spook the other team or make them uncomfortable.
     
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    SB% will always sit around 75% with modern sabermetrics, the only thing that changes is the volume.
     
  15. Joe Joe

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    Breaking even means that they are hurting themselves as much as they are the opponents. Giving teams free outs in volume should not make teams uncomfortable. Fans, sure.
     
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    Is it too much?
     
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    More hitting, stolen bases, and scoring in less time. What's not to like?
     
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    Another thing that doesn't make sense for the owners. Much easier to pay the good pitchers rather than now all the batters look great.
     
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    Was there any kind of reaction or blow back to the Gattis twitter mania?
     
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    What is the break-even point based on? A generic steal randomly throughout the game? It seems to me if you have man on 1st, 2 outs, 0-2 count to your singles-hitting batter, even an unsuccessful steal is not a big deal since the batter gets a fresh count. And if you have Yordan up with a 3-0 count and no outs, a successful steal is less valuable.

    So if the success metric is based on an average generic steal, then managers could still get tons of value from steals if they only use them in advantageous situations, even if the failure rate is higher.
     

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