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NBA Game Action: 4/12/2023

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Apr 12, 2023.

  1. DreamShook

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    im just waiting for a good coach. yull see. yull all see..

    the children were fighting un uphill battle with silas trash ass coaching.
     
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  2. TheRealist137

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    Or maybe OKC knows talent and Green would have thrived in their system.
     
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  3. Rocket River

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    Most definitely. . . .NO WAY I Max him . .

    Very PORTLAND like

    Rockets have as much talent as OKC . . .. .mmmKay
    Consider that Shai and Dort are what . . .4 yrs.. . 5 yrs?

    I ain't complaining about Silas fired .. . . (I do feel he was set up for Failure. . .like Culley)
    But I dunno if he had those same tools (playerS) . . . .and do we think OKC's GM has as much input as Stone had?


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  4. JayGoogle

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    And you spent the entire season whining about how 19-20 year olds didn't lead their team to the playoffs.

    OKC shouldn't make anyone jealous, their best player is hitting his prime years and as such is breaking out, if he didn't then it would be a disappointment. The Rockets best player would be still be in college if they forced players to stay in school for 4 years.
     
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  5. JayGoogle

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    The whole idea that coaches don't matter is just silly. I know some players have said that, guys like Kyrie Irving who hasn't proven to be the most...in check player...

    But I always point out how Mark Jackson used Green vs Kerr. Draymond's own admission is he would have been out of the NBA if it were not for Kerr and if Kerr had never envisioned Green as a big the Warriors never even sniff the finals and NBA history looks a lot different.

    Hell, just look at Harden under MDA vs Harden under McHale. MDA's system and team mentality unleashed him completely which isn't some strange coincidence. MDA's system had Lin looking like a top 10 PG for a period, nearly every PG pops off playing under MDA, it's not some odd coincidence.

    I could go on and on about great coaches and the impact they've had on great players, coaching clearly is a big deal, if it were not then teams wouldn't pay much for them, they'd roll out the cheapest option and call it day.
     
  6. DreamShook

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    If only Silas had more imagination. He was trying to fit all these players that clearly didn't fit his offense into that trash offense only Luka and Harden could run. Sticking Jalen Green in the corner his rookie year, I will never forgive. Running no plays for Bari AND sticking him in the corner, I will never forgive.

    Silas set in the "bust" narrative for Jalen and Bari. you know how hard it will be for them to beat those allegations? im sick.
     
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  7. daywalker02

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    It is the overall package.

    You cannot even have a normal billionaire who does not install his son in this organization.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    The team will win, the NBA would guarantee it.

    It is the problem that the rebuild could last 4 years or 10 years or in Sacramento's case a lot longer. Wasted time and efforts.
     
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  9. daywalker02

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    And they also have Jalen Williams who did not score well today and Chet.

    Tre Mann and Dieng are interesting as well. To a slighter degree Aaron Wiggins.

    Tons of manpower there.
     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    You remind me that organization partly at fault for it, that much is true. They mettled in Silas duties and made it harder for him to coach. I'll give him that.

    I said that in the thread where he got fired, it's not completely on him. Sounds like he tried to put his foot down but probably had lost the team by that point Hopefully the organization learned their lesson.

    It was revealed that the team just stopped following whatever his gameplan was lol, of course they looked downright bad at times. Most of us watched and could see it looked like they were there just playing semi organized ball. I'm not saying it was pick up ball, they clearly ran actions and such but whatever they did had NO rhyme or reason.

    You know how a guy would hit two or three shots then never see the ball again? Yeah, that's a result of a team operating without much of a plan. Any normally coached team goes "Hey, maybe this guy is hot, lets feed him," while the Rockets will ignore what just worked for what looked to be randomness or 'your turn, my turn' ball.

    I'm not sitting here saying without Silas they'd be in the play in. Truth is, OKC's rebuild started years before the Rockets, they are on their 4th or 5th year, so they are right where they should be and without the play-in they'd just be a mediocre team that missed the playoffs. Rockets should be compared to Detroit and Orlando. Those two teams started their rebuild around the same time.
     
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  11. daywalker02

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    No doubt about ownership and team.

    However, I disagree that the Thunder are in their 4th or 5th year because they had 31+ yr old Chris Paul and Gallo a little less than 3 years ago in the Bubble where they took those Harden Rockets to 7.

    They thought about it but then went with Chris Paul to war in the Playoffs, it was hybrid retooling in the short term.

    I know they wanted to trade Chris Paul again sooner than later but then they figured out that Chris Paul could help them with a last Playoff run.

    Of course the Thunder were spared of that one year Harden, WB, Danuel House, Covid drama and Harden party drama.

    Didn't sign cancerous players Wood and KPJ.

    Also did well without Chet Holmgren.

    Russell Westbrook played for the Thunder from 2008-09 to 2018-19.

    https://www.si.com/nba/thunder/news/chris-paul-calls-season-with-thunder-his-proudest
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2020.html
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...five-charts-need-see-understand-year-playoffs
     
  13. YOLO

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    This is okc's 4th year in the rebuild. It started in 2019. cp3 being there didn't disrupt that. That's part of the rebuild. Much the same way like this summer when the rockets are able to add a significant player like harden to help bridge the rebuild. Does that make the rebuild start over? No. next year will be year 3 of the rebuild.
     
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    Did she not know that DeMarr was a huge Raptor legend?
     
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  16. J.R.

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    womp womp

     
  18. Rocket River

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    Lol

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    What the hell kind of person threatens a 9 year old girl over losing a basketball game. SMH.

    RE: Tonight's action--I want Miami to win for our Clippers pick and Minnesota to lose against OKC so they're more likely to blow it up and rebuild. Also the last thing we need is OKC getting another lotto pick
     

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