Yeah anyone playing around 185 or less is going to be thrown around and get fatigued earlier. . pre draft I said you have to draft Jalen at age 19 in order to benefit from his play when he turns 21 (3rd) season.
And yes if the suns had capspace in the offseason to add another star player AND a top draft pick to potentially draft a generational player, yes they probably would have traded booker and ayton
Jordan had oven mitts for hands though. Jalen Green would look so much cooler if he could do those double clutch lay ups while palming the ball with one hand and angling around defenders like Jordan did all the time.
. Why? If Booker is projected to be a borderline superstar and Aton a star, why trade for an older star who doesn't match the timeline for the 19 year old generational talent? You understand even if we get Wemby we won't be contenders for a few more years until the main core we have is fully developed.
From the Rockets side it's considered overpay. Largely because our asset accumulation is limited. If Green and Sengun are gone; we have little left. That said, if Brown and Celtics were happy together (which seems to be more of the case now). Since the article(s), Celtics has been going out of their way to praise him; with video packages and tweets. If Brown wasn't disgruntled, Celtics would also say NO to Rocket's offer. All our guys have is potential, if they go into the Celtics system, C's still have to develop them, (because Silas didn't do it properly), that's the technical debt we accrued unfortunately. It's like kids who are generally bright, but are behind in math and reading at the national level. So in a win-now org, where performance are expected, they're playing catch up. On a win now team (and health aside), Green/Sengun would come off the bench for them. Green behind Smart, Derrick White, and Malcom. Sengun would be behind Horford and Rob. If Celtics traded Brown for "two bench guys" during 'win now'; their fans would pitchfork. Really this all depends on if Celtics have the ability and confidence to persuade Brown.
again jalen green is not devin booker. There is no guarantee he ever will be. Right now he is a chucker on a bad team Brown is a player who you wish green can end up being. Brown at age 20 was better than green is now at 20. You are stuck on timeline like it really matters for some reason. Shaq was in his prime when he won with kobe who was just getting into the league. Im not saying they will ever win a championship, but its a nobrainer to take the obvious upgrade
Nope he wasn't. Brown in his second year averaged 15 ppg on 56% ts with 36% of his fgs unassisted with more turnovers than assists. Green averaged 22 ppg on 54% ts on 60% of his fgs unassisted with more assists than turnovers on a team with mich worse spacing, way less clean looks and not being the primary focus of defenses. He was scoring most from teammates dong him with catch and shoot buckets and transition buckets and he still barely was more efficient than Green.
League was different back in MJ's day.....defenders had to be close to their assignments or commit to double. Often left MJ one on one with his defender on an island.
Brown's 2nd year was with Irving, Rozier, Hayward and a rookie Tatum, Back then, he wasn't a clear #2 option. There was a lot of ball sharing required back then. Take the lower ppg with a grain of salt. Kind of liked Green's year 1 where he was behind Wood in shot attempts and had to share among KPJ and Gordon. In year 2, Green is the leading shot taker (which i'm ok with). Just context. https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2018.html One of the reasons why Brown is looking elsewhere is because; he's been asked to play offball a lot in his tenure and wasn't always featured as the top option. It's more of their system than anything else. Lastly, while Brown can play the 2, he's a better 3 / SF. So unless C's ask for Green, playing Green with Brown is most ideal for Rockets.
Okay but just be clear, Brown had the 8th most field goal attempts per game during the regular season (in the entire league). He is not hurting for touches at. all. In a recent interview he pretty much confirmed that he is not interesting in leaving the Celtics, as well.
There's was a crack opening, so teams (including us) started salivating. Celtics sense the doubt and is doing the white glove treatment to try to retain him. It seems to be working now and if Brown makes the all-star team; he might just stay. The touches thing refers more on his entire tenure from brad to ime and joe. With Ime and Joe, Brown is more hands on, but at times when Tatum doesn't have it, some of the stuff should run through Brown. And if I'm Joe, i'd give the 'last shot' to Brown on certain games. The fact that some of our fanbase turn our nose at the opportunity to get someone like him is surprising. Brown is that good... and as news indicate is out of our league and likely out of our reach.
I would actually seriously think about that deal IF certain things happened. Today would I do it? Heck no. A week into free agency if certain conditions had been met? Maybe! Eg. Sign a proven coach Trade KPJ and LAX pick (plus??) for Anunoby(?) We draft Wemby Harden signs Under circumstances like those, adding Brown to the mix would be great. We'd be looking for a beefy backup C and watching a team that could win 40+ easily, with lots of future potential (Wemby/ Smith/ Eason etc)
Anyone accepts this deal should be the type of person also believes: 3 years tanking=Jaylen Brown. If we give that much for Brown, I wonder what we would give for a real star such as SGAlexander,Doncic.etc.. Key of Houston city or whole Texas?
I'm game but I'm not including jalen, jabari, or our '23 first. instead of jalen/alpy/tate/2 picks I'm countering with KPJ/alpy/KJ/5 picks (the clippers pick and the remaining nets picks, none of our own).
I presume Green or Jabari would be in any serious trade for Brown. Personally I'd be more comfortable with Green as the headliner and I imagine Brown would prefer to play next Jabari. I voted "no" but I would think really hard about it. Would inserting Eason over Sengun ease some of y'all's concerns? I think that type of deal feels better, but still hurts.
If Brown was 21 on this team where you could chuck to look good he probably be avg 29 per game his rookie year. Celtics have had good teams with offensive spread and defensive. Great coaches that pushed accountability. Winning ball club for several years straight while Vets who demand the ball, and avg 12-15 ppg. If you guys are enjoying this **** show out there with 20 wins every year so Jalen can get his 23, 24 ppg spread looks to me like another bulls team with Lavine on it Look Jalen an Segun are great young players but this team is in bad shape just saying. They need direction in coaching. Culture change is in due order. Including vets who could mold this team.
