KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

There is a league wide meme for Tatum and Boston fans spamming "he's only 20!" So even today when he's 25, people spam comment sections of Tatum posts with "and he's only 19!"

That's now KPJ stans .

 

So this is your response for getting called out blatantly lying.

You could just say that you got caught up in pushing your BS narratives and we could move on, but here we are.

And you aren't being called out for things you did years ago, you made both of those blatant lies TODAY.

 

KPJ
Year 1 Age 19 season : 53.5 TS%
Year 2 Age 20 season : 52.8 TS% down 0.7%
Year 3 Age 21 season : 53.1 TS% up 0.3%
Year 4 Age 22 season: 56.6 TS% up 3.5%(still below league average)

Green
Year 1 Age 19 season : 54.7 TS%
Year 2 Age 20 season : 53.9 TS% down 0.8%

Almost the exact same year 2 step back in efficiency. And again up until KPJs Year 4 Age 22 season he had been more inefficient than Jalen was in either of his Year 1 Age 19 or Year 2 Age 20 seasons.

With how little KPJ improved his efficiency in his Year 3 Age 21 season you would think one who describes Jalen as an inefficient chucker would have felt the exact same way and maybe even more so about KPJ as a scorer.

Since an agenda is involved this was not the case.

 

Kpj has never been described as an inefficient chucker even though his past 3 years ts% were all below the 2 years of green playing in the league.

The year before that man was using +/- to sht on green. Man just throwing sht to the wall and if that fails pivot into something else, it's quite sad.

 

I like how a 21 year old is in an age 20 season.

 

You're really reaching now, dude. He was 20 for the majority of the season. He just turned 21 in February.

 

So he's been 21 since before the all star break then? In his 20 year season?

Interesting.

 

Are you seriously now arguing about how "age whatever season" is defined? Really? Nobody made this up to try to make Green look better. It's just how it's done. Go take a look at Basketball-Reference.com.

A'ight, Imma duck out of this thread now, this is just getting too ridiculous.

 

Let's just express age in days you exist on earth. I think you are very confused about basic math principles. Computer science fields do math in discrete numbers but this is real life.

 

Whatever will keep you from lying kiddo.

When you call a 20 year old 19, that's a lie. When you call a 22 year old 23, that's a lie.

 

Basketball reference definition of Age for their statistics:

• Age - Age; player age on February 1 of the given season.

50 of the Rockets 82 games were before February 1. 55 of the Rockets 82 games were before Greens birthday.

 

No, no, it's cool, Jalen is 12, KPJ is 45, we have to wait 33 more years to compare Jalen's performance to KPJ's performance this season.

We have to be fair after all.

 

I’m probably a lot more concerned about Green than most fans, and was disappointed in the development I saw from year 1-2. But now that Silas is gone, I’m ready to see what he looks like with a better coach. And I’m hopeful a new coach will use KPJ in a role that helps the team win.

To be clear, both players together in the backcourt are trash. But hoping the new regime will use KPJ in more of a utility scoring and shooting role, while providing the structure and accountability Green needs to take that next step as the starting 2-guard.

By most credible accounts we are gonna have a new point guard next year, so if the org wants to keep these guys together that’s the only way it will work. Can’t have another season of the backcourt “twins”

 

Why are people wasting time with booby is truly beyond me.

“Do we have to wait till he's 35 to expect him to have shown some level of competence?” LMFAO

No. He declared Corey Brewer in Green’s rookie season. That’s all I need to know.

 

Kevin Porter Jr's first 3 seasons in the NBA vs Jalen Green's first 2 seasons:

Games 137.....143
PPG 13.7.....19.9
TS% 53.1.....54.2
FG% 42.4 .....42.1 (totals are non-heave)
3 pt% 35.3 .....34.2 (totals are non-heave)
2 pt% 48.5 .....48.3
FT% 68.6 .....79.0
REB 3.9 ........3.6
AST 4.7 .......3.2
TO's 2.7 .......2.3
Steals 1.0 .......0.7
Blocks 0.3 ......0.3
RPM -5.29 ....+1.63

Isolation defense average percentile: KPJ 42nd, Jalen 76th.

I'm sure there's no way Jalen Green could improve on these numbers the way KPJ did over the course of 59 games played this season. Nah. We certainly don't have anything to look at that could give us an idea. Comparing him to how similar players performed over their first two seasons would be a waste of time. I'm sure he didn't perform close to, as well or better than some of the best SG's today did in their first two seasons. No way.

And we all know there's no way circumstances and situations are ever different. Nope. We must judge a player based strictly on what he's doing now, regardless of age or experience, to the best in the NBA. We can look at KPJ's 59 game stretch, but no way could or should we look at Green's last 35 games. That'd be a fluke.

 

lol @ Bobby not being able to comprehend something as simple as age.

 

U don't even use age to compare players progress/development, u use their years of experience bc guess what players come into the league at different ages. Something booby fails to comprehend.

Mind blowing stuff right there.

 

Yeah, the low point for me with Jalen was 1/24 in Minnesota. That was bad. Body language. Effort. It was concerning.

But when I read that after that game, he was on the phone during the plane ride home setting up the 4am workout in the gym (court) before dropping a career high 42 & blocking D-Lo's 3 near the end of the game as they got the win vs the same team they looked terrible against just two nights before, I exhaled some.

I go back to the Moses and Murph days. The framed newspapers from the Championships that hang in my man cave will tell you I'm a Rockets fan first. But I definitely am a Jalen fan. Murph was probably my first favorite player. I've had a few through the years. Never had that feeling with Harden. Was more of a love/hate thing with me. Talent was off the charts obviously. It was so much of the other stuff that just made it hard for me. It started with quitting (or getting fatigued, whichever you feel fits best) during that playoff game vs the Spurs.

So Jalen has definitely brough back the "kid in me" a little. Being emotionally invested in the team like so many of us are, going through the ups & downs, it's something non-sports fans don't understand. I've always said, my mood & happiness depends WAY too much on how my team does. It's stupid. Unhealthy. But it is what it is. For me, it's fun to have a true "favorite player" on my team again. So no doubt I'll continue to look for positives & things to be optimistic about.

That said, I was disappointed some too this season. I think a lot of us really thought what he did over the final 32 games last season might be who he "already is". That was crazy. Those numbers were insane for a 19-20 year old shooting guard. Maybe that's not who he'll be. I still think it likely is in the next few years. We'll see.

The thing I do know though is what these kids have endured, with the team, in this situation, is one of the worst I've ever seen. Almost zero veteran leadership to help guide them through with basically a rookie coach as well. How many times did we see them start games focused & locked in, only to see the heads drop, shoulders droop & efforts wane. The "here we go again" was definitely real. So we'll see. I'm hopeful & optimistic we have some real talented core pieces in Jalen, Jabari, Al-P, Tari & possibly two or three more.

 

Daaamn!

 

Kpj was the vissalis spanoulis of the g league