you mean "boon". but in the sense that we will have little left to go boom when china invades Taiwan, then I guess your post makes sense.
Frenchies are going to be Frenchies as always and with an attitude. We need to stop coming to their aides and let them fend for themselves. They have nothing but disdain for us so why continue to be a doormat? Let Manny get into bed with the fat Pooh bear and see how long that will last.
Macron and the French are such losers man. It's one thing if you were supporting yourself and then flexing but WTF are you folks flexing about? Youre relying on uncle Sam to protect you and subsidize your army. What utter losers. Throw them to the wolves
Not really. It's a win/win. They enjoy spending their money on services, subsidizing businesses et,. They don't have the same desire to be the best military in the world. The U. S. Loves having the biggest and best military in the world. It's something Americans are proud of. So we have the military to help them and they have the subsidized food, wines, and things that people love from France. Everybody wins.
With relations chilling between US and China to the point where they cut off comms, I don't mind France positioning themselves in the middle. He should get **** for overplaying his clout. I just don't think steamrolling him for dialogue gives us more options.
Yes. This is what I was saying. France has its own agenda but so do most countries we have alliances with. Their differences from us gives them more credibility to reach out to Russia and the PRC. In a world where a major power conflict could wipe out civilization having an intermediary between major powers isn’t a bad thing.
The difference is when were SUBSIDIZING european security and spending 4 TIMES the entire amount Europe has spent on ukraine. Macron wants to go overseas and undermine the usa which is completely fine but back it up by your actions. The issue is step it up and handle your own ****. If you want to act independent THEN DO SO BY YOUR ACTIONS. Its amazing how people dont see what Xi is doing. XI saw massive protests in France with Macron approval ratings plummeting. He put on a huge fancy show for Macron as he knew he was lonely at home and it worked like a charm on Macron. This whole notion macron is talking to XI in the name of diplomacy is a utter joke. XI hasnt even had a god damn phone call with Zelensky but the Europeans are brainwased into thinking that China will push a peace plan through. Macron is out of his depth and is being playing like a fiddle by China. He accomplished NONE of his goals that he laid out to accomplish before the meeting. We're sending our advanced weaponary to ukraine in the hope of Europe helping us with weapons for Taiwan.
@astros123 https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/10/egypt-weapons-russia/ Not only are the sanctions nearly useless, the rest of the world is capitalizing on the war mongering.
If the sanctions were useless the weapons wouldve been delievered to russia already. Its amazing how you people dont get how sanctions work. The reason why Russia is taking out T72s from storage and not manufacturing T90s is because they dont have the tech to do so.
They're pulling out older tanks than that and sending them to Ukraine. From The Telegraph: Russia hauls 1950s-era tanks out of storage to join battlefield Experts say transportation of old T-54 and T-55 armoured vehicles is a sign the Russian army has no more modern ones left in stockpiles By Roland Oliphant, SENIOR FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT and Dominic Nicholls 22 March 2023 • 5:52pm Russia appears to have pulled 1950s-era tanks out of storage in the latest sign of a serious armour shortage in its army.... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...uls-1950s-era-tanks-storage-join-battlefield/
They're also taking well-trained artillery crews and turning them into "assault infantry" (cannon fodder) because they don't have enough good gun barrels to keep them all working.
If any of you guys ever have any time the best book you'll ever read is called Chip war. It just came out last year Check this out! https://a.co/d/hL4GEmi When you realize the importance of semi conductors you realize how vital they are. You can't fire a missle without advanced chips. Every GPS guided missle has hundreds of chips in it. Russia has been blocked from importing any chips while usa extended the same chips export to China. China isn't helping Russia with chips because they don't have it themselves. Without semiconductor chips in today's society you're genuinely ****ed.
Interesting. Explains some of France's actions and rhetoric towards the battle lines beginning to be drawn. Looks like Russia's and China's burgeoning Central African commodity grab borders some of France's remaining empire. Lot on France's plate internally too.
Again I think you’re underselling Macron given that he’s not towing the US line. He did get several trade deals signed. Expecting he was going to get the PRC to openly turn against Russia was unrealistic but he did emphasize that if the PRC wants to maintain good trade and diplomatic ties with Europe backing Russia is not the way to do it. And yes Europe is overwhelmingly dependent on the US for defense. That has been built up over 70 years of US global defense strategy and isn’t going to change soon. If we any to see Europe pulling their own weight then we should be encouraging France to develop its own defense strategy. That will mean they pursue their own interests as de Gaulle did and other French leader have. My main point is yes Macron didn’t follow the US rhetoric exactly. That isn’t a completely bad thing as it gives him more room to deal with the PRC and other strategic rivals of the US and west. Given the stakes that we face having a member of NATO who is still overwhelmingly aligned with our interests speak and negotiate with potential enemies is a good thing.
We will agree to disagree because I respect your opinion. Macron got the trade deals signed the chinnese WANTED him to sign. Everything the chinnese do is planned and thought in advance. Macron STATED goal before he left was to get Xi to call zelensky and have XI release a statement demanding peace. These WERE HIS GOALS not anyone else's. He didn't accomplish HIS OWN GOALS. Any trade deal or business deal that he signed was planned by the chinnese to drive a wedge between the two nations. You dont get how the chinnese do business.
Seems a bit unrealistic to expect Macron to be anything but vague and conciliatory when travelling to Bejiing and making a speech.
If it's a bit unrealistic then why DID HE MAKE those goals. These aren't goals that biden made up. Macron own administration said they're biggest goal was to have XI call zelensky and push for peace. In return XI drove a wedge between France and America nd threw him some bullshit trade deals that people here think is somehow a win. XI giving state contracts to Macron so he can disavow taiwan is why chinnese have zero respect for Europeans. XI used Macron like a cheap w**** cuz thats what he views him as. They know when push comes to shove the Europeans will fold like a cheap lawn chair. Those who can't see it don't understand how the CCP works. We will have to agree to disagree. @basso gets it weirdly. Every single detail in china is done on purpose and set up by the government These students were PLANTED there to give macron a ego boost cuz XI knew Macron was facing protests and low approvals. He played his ego just like XI played trump. The Chinnese are 20 steps ahead of everyone else. The sooner we realize this the better.
