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What I have heard about the Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nook, Apr 10, 2023.

  1. Hemingway

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    Harden or Conley. Let’s say it’s Conley.

    Conley/KPJ
    Green/KPJ/JC
    Bridges/Tari/KJM
    Jabari/Tari
    Sengun/Jabari/vet shot blocker

    That’s play-in worthy and a great start to building a contending team.

    Switch Harden for Conley and for sure play-in and the year after competing team.
     
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    Ball is a better overall player than Young. I have season tickets to the Hawks and watch a lot of their games. While Young is fun to watch, and does have a lot of heart, he does not play D and his teammates do not like him. In fact, the Hawks are looking to move him this offseason. Ball plays D, is bigger, stronger and is just as good of a shooter, he just doesn't chuck up half court threes like Young does.

    As for coaches, if you go with Nurse, Vogel or Atkinson, then you may as well forget about getting any FAs to come here. They just won't. We may have to execute trades and overpay mediocre players a la the LA Lakers just to appear to look relevant. We will win max 30-40 games a season. Nurse lucked into a team that had won 55 plus games for four seasons in a row prior to his promotion. Once Lowry left, its been downhill. Atkinson maybe the most overrated coach in the league not named Eric Spoelstra. As for Vogel, I think everyone knows what he is at this point.
     
  3. OremLK

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    I would also prefer Ball to Young, but of the two, Young is far more likely to be available, unfortunately. I don't know if I agree that Ball is the better player right now, but he is a lot younger and probably will be better soon.

    The real question is, if you could/had to choose between Young and a 33-year-old Harden, which would you prefer?

    P.S. I personally don't think we should prioritize attracting star free agents. It's usually fool's gold. Develop our own core first, then let guys come to us asking to be on our team.
     
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  4. Nook

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    I am not saying that it is a guarantee that Mikal Bridges will score 26 a game next year, but it is a real possibility because his advanced numbers were very strong in Brooklyn, and his percentages in Brooklyn were basically the same as Phoenix, only with more attempts. I will say he went from an elite defender in Phoenix to only a good one in Brooklyn.
     
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    Jalen has no documented history of being a problem unlinke Porter.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Okay good, so Green is going to be fine with his demotion to 6th man then? Awesome.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    He was one of the candidates to be a late bloomer, later than Kawhi even.
     
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    I mean seriously ask yourself what you are saying here.

    Hint for future GMs: keep the player who is coachable and willing to try lesser roles. The fact that you agree that Green would take it better is half the reason why 99 in 100 Rocket fans would rather keep him. The other 50% is he's just flat out more talented.
     
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    I'm not assuming he would accept it, I'm asking if he will. If Green accepts his role as 6th man, I think he has a future here. If he decides to become a locker room problem, we might have to move on.

    I'm just not sure Green has the maturity to accept that kind of thing after being given the keys to the franchise without ever earning it.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    Agreed.

    While Harden is the much better player, Conley is the much better teammate and likely leader.
     
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    If we draft #3-6, Im offering that pick+Net assets other than 2024 pick and a young player(Martin, Jaygup, Garuba) for Bridges and Claxton.

    If we dont get Wemb, we need a shot blocker and rebounder in the rotation. This also has Brooklyn conceding a nice pick to us (probably #8-10) BUT allows them to rebuild with their iwn picks and the Durant trade assets.
     
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    Jonathan Isaac? When was he healthy? This isn't NBA 2K.
     
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    Quit? When did Kyrie stop competing in a elimination game?
     
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    The world saw the same thing
     
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    The idea that Trae is worth 6 firsts and a couple of pretty decent role players seems absurd to me.
     
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    Ima Udoka or Nick Nurse. Nurse is a tactician . He can make a ton of adjustments like zone to box and 1 on the fly given what the other teams are running on offense and on offense he has a ton of tricks. Really good coach.


    Ima obviously showed what a good defensive coach he is . Remember when he was the Nets defensive coach in 2021 they were playing suffocating defense in the playoffs till the injuries besieged them.
     
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    What's even more absurd to me is that the Hawks are alleged to have a player worth 6 first round picks and 3 playoff calibre rotation players + he doesn't want out + they want to trade him. Young is not netting the greatest trade package in NBA history.
     
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    GOOD. GOOOOOOD. I can FEEL the hatred.
     
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    If you replace "Green" with "KPj" this makes way more sense.
     
  20. carl_herrera

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    Gobert: 5 firsts, 1 swap, 3 useful role players
    Mitchell: 4 firsts, 2 swaps, 2 legit good young players
    Dejounte on a 2 year unextendable contract: 3 firsts, 1 swap
    Mikal Bridges before his recent breakthrough (offer declined): 4 firsts

    I’m not a Trae fan, and I know everyone loves to trash him, but if he’s traded it’s going to be for at least something like the Mitchell package. He’s clearly a bigger star than the rest of these guys, and significantly younger.

    Young stars under contract get traded for 5-6 unprotected draft assets/legit young players and filler, that’s the going rate.

    It’s fun to say he isn’t worth that, and I agree he isn’t, but that’s the market price.

    And the Nets package is less than it sounds - the role players are expiring UFA’s and the draft picks are mostly 4+ years in the future.
     

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