Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, eliminating constitutional right to abortion

This would actually save money, not cost money. Also, there is already widespread access to contraception, the problem is getting people to use it. The less frequently the contraception needs to be applied, the more effective it is (because the number one failure point is always the person not using it on any given occasion). That is why hysterectomy is the most effective form of contraception and abstinence is the least effective (even though properly performed, abstinence has a nearly 100% success rate). Things like IUDs have high success rates, then implants, then shots, then pills, on down to things that must be used every time like condoms and diaphragms. The problem is that the contraceptives we put the most effort into making accessible are condoms. That's helpful for trying to cut down on STIs, but one of the least effective means of birth control (not because condoms don't work, but because people don't use them every time). Permanent forms of birth control remove the element of human error.

 

I'm not exactly an authority to be cited.

I think it does in the short term. Which isn't really a goal to be sought imo.

 

Right, except men have never really waited for marriage before having sex. They used prostitutes, had girlfriends, mistresses, women of lower station that they slept with. Now, there were men that for saving family reputation that would marry their girlfriends when they would become pregnant - but that wasn't what always happened.... women would also have illegal abortions or move away to have children, give the children up to an orphanage and then move back home.

When people would marry, extra marital sex and mistresses were common.... as were forced sex in marriage (rape) and women often times had very little power and were at the mercy of men.

Modern women eschew sex? I don't agree with this....... modern women know that they can have sex whenever they want it. They don't like having men send them "dick pictures" or being objectified, but women today have more control over who they date, whether they have sex, and whether they marry or not. Is it perfect? No.

This ideal that you speak of has never existed. The social restraints were established, and a lot of people found ways around them to have sex, or there were abuses and a lot of secrets.

 

The best example that I've seen is in Colorado. In Colorado, IUDs are free to low income women and teens. Additionally, pharmacists can issue prescriptions for birth control pills which removes a huge barrier for a lot of women. A huge number of Americans lack a family doctor which greatly increases the difficulty in even getting a birth control prescription. Additionally, Colorado has a free birth control (both pills and other non-pill birth control) program through a network of state funded clinics.

Colorado used to have one of the highest abortion rates in the US. Now its one of the lowest. And their abortion rate has been declining every year as their birth control access programs gain more popularity.

 

I don't really care about reducing abortions.

I haven't seen any real evidence that women are exploiting the ability to have abortions.

93% of abortions are in the first three months of conception and 99% are within the first 4.5 months.

I am perfectly fine with women having abortions, as it is their bodies, they are the ones that can give birth and they are the arbiters as far as I am concerned.

 

See y’all at the polls in 2024.

 

hrmmmm

 

Obgyn isn't a researcher. They don't analyzing statistical data. That isn't their wheelhouse of training.

Daryl Morey is more qualified to "examine data" and determine statistical significance over vaccinations than a obgyn as statistics is his wheelhouse.

 

Just in case anyone thought Commodore or Tucker Carlson were operating in good faith:

*Googles "James Thorp COVID vaccine"*

*Sees source: James Thorp, Epoch Times, et. al. bullshit.*

Multiple studies show that COVID-19 vaccines don't cause pregnancy or fertility problems, despite widespread claims on social media

COVID-19 Vaccines Reduce, Not Increase, Risk of Stillbirth

 

Their fetus had a fatal condition, but they couldn't leave Texas for an abortion : Shots - Health News : NPR


'Crushed' at 20 weeks
Casiano got the diagnosis three days after Christmas, at a prenatal appointment when she was 20 weeks pregnant. "I was told that she's incompatible with life," she says. "I was crushed."

She asked her OB-GYN what her options were. Casiano says her doctor told her, "Well, because of the new law, you don't have any options. You have to go on with your pregnancy."

Impossible logistics
Samantha Casiano is 29 years old. She and Villasana are raising four kids, and a goddaughter who lives with them. Their youngest is 9 months old. They live in East Texas in a mobile home.

After she got the anencephaly diagnosis in December, she called clinics that provide abortions in New Mexico and Arizona, but she couldn't figure out how to make the trip. It would have been at least 700 miles and taken about 12 hours to drive to a clinic in New Mexico – that would have required days off of work and childcare for her kids. "It wasn't possible for us," she says. So she braced herself for five more months carrying a pregnancy that would end in a funeral.

Awful weeks, painful questions
Those weeks were awful, she says. She started on antidepressants. She also began to work remotely — she does document processing for a corporation. "There was no way I could go into the office because I couldn't hear the 'Oh, my gosh, how far along are you?'"

Birth, at 33 weeks
Casiano also looked into donating the baby's organs. She thought, "Maybe this is why this is happening, because my baby can save another baby," she says. "I was told that anencephaly babies do not qualify to donate their organs. So I was like, 'OK, I don't see a purpose in this.'"

In the end, her daughter came early, at 33 weeks. Labor was painful, the baby was delivered breech and she needed an epidural. "Some of her brain was not fully developed – when she came out, I was just like, 'Oh my God.' I was just numb."

She says her husband really believed there was a possibility the baby would be OK, but she only lived a few hours. "When she died, it was heartbreaking to him," she says. They each took turns holding her. "Having to see my daughter that way was just so hard."

Halo's funeral on Good Friday
Because she went into labor early, Casiano has less time than she expected to sort out how to pay for Halo's funeral. She was quoted $4,000 by one funeral home. The family moved less than a year ago and used up all their savings on the move. Her family cooked menudo, a spicy Mexican soup, and raised $645 selling it by the bowl.

 

She could get round trip tickets on Southwest for about 300 bucks. The menudo sales would have covered that and the day off work (unless she is making $2750 a week).

 

It's good Republicans can tell people how to deal with personal family matters. Perhaps we should have Republicans access to all personal information of people so they can better give advise like this.

 

Since Republicans have made the State decision-makers instead of allowing the patient and doctor to decide, they might as well determine whether she should fly or not, without regard for her health or circumstances. This would be consistent behaviors.

 

In fact, they should replace doctors all together. These legislators clearly have great knowledge about vaccines, abortion drugs, masks, hormonal treatments, psychology, genetics, stem cells, and birth control. Why do we need doctors when you have god-fearing Christian lawmaking men who attend church when it's convenient for them?

 

I agree with your end point, I haven’t seen the data but you would see big pharma pull everything at the risk of a trillion dollar lawsuit not to mention covid itself is much worse than the vaccine (one of the most pro inflammatory diseases). It’s extremely difficult to imply causation here, too many con founders

thay being said the obgyn part is stupid, where do you think clinical research comes from? Clinicians probably…

Covid has become too politicized, a new study has reflected a 15% increase in heart attacks since (which is astronomical) and in line with how it attacks the body. People need to take the vaccine and their L here. I predict in 10-20 years we are going to be seeing it as a vasculitis (very very bad disease)

 

Ignorance can sometimes be bliss, but damn, the things I have read about COVID long term impacts have deeply concerned me about what the future holds for all of us. Our health system appears ill-equipped to handle the burden, and many people will not have the financial means to cope with the potential consequences.

 

I am happy to help these poor, unfortunate souls with their decisions. Have them @ me here and I will get to it as soon as I can.

 

Wow.

 

I haven’t followed this case close enough but it sounds like the judge who banned it was specifically selected for this and the paintiff an organization that was created specifically for this case.