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Where do you draw the line - transgender

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by droxford, Feb 7, 2023.

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We all draw the line some where. Where do you draw the line?

  1. Society should refer to transgenders using their preferred pronouns

    21 vote(s)
    26.6%
  2. Definitions ("man", "woman", "gender", & "sex") should be changed/eliminated due to transgenders

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  3. It should be permissible for transgenders to share restroom/locker room with their identified gender

    15 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. Transgenders should be able to participate in athletic & other competitions based on their identity

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  5. Transgenders should qualify for loans, grants, scholarships, & admissions based on their identity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Gender-specific organizations should be required to accept transgendrs based on their gender idntity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  7. Historical medical records & birth certificats should be changed to only show transgenders' indntity

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  8. Transgenders <16 yrs should be able to hve sex-reassignmnt surgery/pubrty blockrs w/o parent consent

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  9. The U.S. government should provide finances for sex-reassigned surgeries and puberty-blocking drugs

    5 vote(s)
    6.3%
  10. None of the above

    56 vote(s)
    70.9%
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  1. tinman

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    Don't know wtf this guy is but why is he more credible than some random pink hair screaming at the top of their lungs to get a person cancelled through Twitter.

    I doubt progressives want civil or mob violence and trans, who are generally targets of physical violence rather than perpetrators of it, likely don't want to place a target on their backs against mob hate.

    Something Mr. Potato Head doesn't realize (cuz he's whhhaspy whhhhite), minorites generally know the country can turn on them in an instant with whatever given reason or rationale. Blacks, Jews-Soros, Muslims-9/11, Gays-AIDS, Mexicans-nothing but Rapist/thieves, Asians-Wuhan Flu...Jina... WW2...Vietnam, etc.

    It's not just whites that turn against them, it's the whole damn country with a might that feels like every institution is chomping at the bit for just another mistake.

    Maybe there will be a "violent Marxist uprising", but highly doubtful another trans will do it.

    OFC we'll get another 3-5 "mentally ill lone wolf" mass shooting but this cunt won't make **** up about that as an uprising of another political creed.

    Twitter doom scrolling rots the mind.
     
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    but @rocketsjudoka and @fchowd0311 told me that these are isolated instances. Its not like all she did was ask for fariness in a sport she was asked to give up a trophy for photo ops, and express that it made her uncfomrotable to have somebody with a penis reveal themselves without forwarning.

    You would think she was a bigot by this reaction.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Society's biggest problem. I hope society doesn't end because of the trans agenda
     
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    Society no maybe, but certainly Riley if you and your krew keep harassing her. Lay off
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    There are more tangible documented cases in just a single religious organization with the Southern Baptist church than there are documented cases of child abuse by trans people as a whole.


    The dedication to the cause from you is not there of a sincere normal person sincerely worried about women abuse, child abuse. Quite frankly of that was your sincere primary motivation we would see a lot more posts from you ranging on a lot of other issues involving the abuse of children and women on here. But this is like 90% of your content here.
     
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    Interesting incel behaviour, downplaying women's concerns.
     
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    This is deeply disturbing. Unfortunately protecting the rights of the mentally disabled is something that is uniformly accepted that it isn’t cool for the leftist loonies to condemn this

    the only scenario I think it would be ok is if they had the capacity to understand this , got paid well and there were few options for them to make a living
     
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    A sincere person caring about exploration would see a 2 second video where they might have a slight suspicion and then be intellectually curious to learnt he background of the individual and find more context because they want to truly know if this person is being abused.


    So what do you gather from this clip and what have you.learned since, as this is a big issue for you rather han merely a talking point in culture wars poo flinging, surely you mustered up the intellectual curiosity to find more background information of this severe exploitation of the disabled.
     
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    You read and quote to respond not to listen and discuss intellectually. Your entire attack was addressed in the 2nd out of the (only!) two paragraphs in my post. I actually agree, more should be investigated before coming to a conclusion. It worrisome you’ve developed some severe cognitive issue brother.

    by the way as a learning point, providing consent requires capacity, something that can andbshould be questioned in every case with individuals with intellectual disabilities, whether it’s prolonged work, drag etc
     
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    I have a similar negative reaction. Here are two articles about it. Not my cup of tea, but each to their own, and if they feel great about it, good for them.

    https://www.dragsyndrome.com/media-drag-syndrome

    In December 2017, choreographer Daniel Vais was working with Culture Device Dance Project, a contemporary dance company for dancers with Down’s syndrome. Culture Device had been invited to perform at LimeWharf, a creative space in East London. Vais brought Culture Device performer, actress Sarah Gordy—the first person with Down’s syndrome to be awarded an MBE by the Queen—down to check out the space. At it so happened, the space was hosting a party for drag queens at the time. “Sarah really enjoyed the drag performance,” Vais remembers, “so I asked her, ‘Would you like to try performing drag?’ She looked at me she said, ‘Yes!’”

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    https://www.papermag.com/drag-performance-down-syndrome-2627747693.html#rebelltitem1

    When and how did Drag Syndrome come into existence?

    A producer had invited me to see a space in East London. So I went with Sara Gordon, one of our models and dancers, to the Christmas party last year. During the event there were performances by drag queens, which prompted me to ask Sarah if she would ever be open to experimenting with drag. And she replied straight away saying it would be absolutely fascinating. Right on the spot I came up with the title, Drag Syndrome.

    From there, I spoke with all the artists and asked them if they would want to try it. They were all very enthusiastic about it. But I told them that drag is not just a costume. Drag is about transformation. It's an art form. So the performers started researching it and each began developing their own characters.

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    these activists are sick
     
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    In order to protect women, anti-woke men need to step up and inspect the genitalia of anyone entering a girl's bathroom or locker room. This will protect girls from the evil transgenders!
     
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    They are obsessed with children because they can’t have any
    you send trans astronauts to mars
    And there will be no human colony

     
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    Hard to pass judgment when we don't know these people or the circumstance/arrangement.

    If you consider this exploitation, then you probably have to apply that standard to every employed person with Downs everywhere.

    Edit: a 5 second google search turns up some evidence that they are all quite willing participants and enjoying themselves very much.
     
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    This is the first I’d heard of “Drag Syndrome” and frankly it sounds like one of those things that are an outlier, this isn’t even in the US, and are magnified for outrage.

    From reading what is posted here it doesn’t sound like the performers are being forced or compelled to do this but are so if their free choice. Note that just because someone has Down syndrome doesn’t mean that they don’t have awareness of what their own identity is. Portraying them as merely victims being exploited becaue they don’t know better isn’t standing up for people with Down’s syndrome but more paternalism and also exploiting them to advance a culture war.
     
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    @tinman
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    You know as much as I agree with you guys about the whole trans-athletes thing and similarly recognize the problems with "gender affirming care", trans-inclusivity in some female only spaces, and exposing children to things of a sexual/mature nature, you guys all come off as absolute raging assholes who just won't let queer people live their damn lives. You reach well beyond the boundaries of these issues and seem to have a problem with the mere existence of anyone queer. It's honestly pretty gross.
     

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