Dude beats women in swimming update: dude beats girl in Olympics boxing in 46 seconds

I don’t doubt she found it upsetting. I don’t doubt they trans people can act boorish and disgracefully. That doesn’t mean they all women feel that way of that all trans people at that way.


again I don’t presume to speak for all women or all trans people.

And if there are women who are comfortable with trans people such as the women who placed second to Lia Thomas
https://www.insider.com/olympian-erica-sullivan-proud-to-support-trans-athletes-lia-thomas-2022-3

Do you as a dude presume to speak for her?

 

No. It depends on intent.

you as a German are probably very familiar with public nudity as it’s more tolerated in Germany than here. Do you considers all the males being publicly nude around women and children to be sexual harrassers?

I’ve answered your question and I’ve noticed that you haven’t answered my question.

 

Oh yes you’ve got me now..

 

Depends. When there are separate changing rooms, there is a reasonable expectation, especially for women, that no biological males will be in their changing room. When there is a public mixed sauna, the reasonable expectation in Germany is that there might be other adults of any gender.

In the US, certainly the reasonable expectation of women is that there will not be any biological males in their changing rooms.

Your constant anti-women posts are starting to be a bit concerning. I hope you are alright.

 

Lets transpose this scenario, if you as a dude walk into a place where women quarter and undress, and you swing your dick around and someone who was brutally raped breaks down in tears and becomes uncomfortable, would you rely on someone somwhere else going "well... girls are cool with it!" or come to the conclusion you should ask before doing such things

you are arguing taht trans individuals should be granted the same rights as others which is something I agree with, but then not doing so in the way of stripping female input and rights to safe female spaces by granting them privileges that discriminate against others. They should be treated equally as should women

 

His argument is basically "I don't care if women don't like it, as long as there are some women who are ok with it". So weird.

 

the left's abandonment of basic civility is pervasive, turning into screaming children when they hear something they disagree with or when someone else does something they don't approve of

Riley Gaines is barely able to speak and requires a massive police escort because of these psychotic children. In a just world they would all be suspended.

 

Again you're mixing up people being exhibitionist versus just the mere presence of a trans individual. Yes "swinging your dick around" is at the minimum rude and certainly trans people like everyone else can be rude and disrepsectful. What would be wrong then with a trans individual acting respectfully in a locker room? I mean I frequently change in locker rooms and I don't go around swinging my dick around. I've changed around gay individuals and even trans individuals and none of them have gone around swinging their genitals around.

I'm going to note this was the same arguments made against gay people. That somehow gay people wouldnt' be able to act respectfully around people of the same gender. That because their mere presence would make others uncomfortable they should be ostracized.

I'm going to note that I'm probably the only one here who has consistently argued that the decision should be made up to women. That women's leagues are the ones who should decide who qualifies to compete. THen again nuanced arguments are pretty much lost here.

 

Yes I'm constantly anti-women even though my argument is to allow them to decide for themselves.

I do find it funny though how much myself and others who don't feel that trans people are a threat are accused of virtue signaling when you and others arguments are all essentially "white knighting" that we need to protect the frail women from the threat of trans.

I'm probably the only one here who actually has experience with a trans athlete having coached one. None of the cis women that that athlete trained with or competed against felt they needed a man to come in and stand up for them.

 

And do you extend that concern to when the Right do things like storm the US Capitol or heckle those who don't agree with them like several Republican members of Congress have done during official speeches? Or for that matter like in Charlottesville run over people they don't agree with?

 

I would be OK with that too.

 

1) That is not your argument
2) They are not deciding for themselves

 

I've made that argument consistently but I see you would rather make strawman arguments.

I've also noticed neither you nor others have answered my question about if you support women in other aspects such as pay equity.

 

I think having a 3rd category in sports makes sense - for those who are non-binary. They can train with the women or men and even compete - as they choose but are in a separate awards category. This way no one feels they are losing a place and it can be reviewed once there is more scientific research.