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Where do you draw the line - transgender

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by droxford, Feb 7, 2023.

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We all draw the line some where. Where do you draw the line?

  1. Society should refer to transgenders using their preferred pronouns

    21 vote(s)
    26.6%
  2. Definitions ("man", "woman", "gender", & "sex") should be changed/eliminated due to transgenders

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  3. It should be permissible for transgenders to share restroom/locker room with their identified gender

    15 vote(s)
    19.0%
  4. Transgenders should be able to participate in athletic & other competitions based on their identity

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  5. Transgenders should qualify for loans, grants, scholarships, & admissions based on their identity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Gender-specific organizations should be required to accept transgendrs based on their gender idntity

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  7. Historical medical records & birth certificats should be changed to only show transgenders' indntity

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  8. Transgenders <16 yrs should be able to hve sex-reassignmnt surgery/pubrty blockrs w/o parent consent

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  9. The U.S. government should provide finances for sex-reassigned surgeries and puberty-blocking drugs

    5 vote(s)
    6.3%
  10. None of the above

    56 vote(s)
    70.9%
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  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Where are you in the other thread where the female swimmer is crying about abuse? You guys are anti woman af
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    If it weren't for total dipshits like you, we could possibly come to some sort of agreement.

    But no, you're too damn dum. There's only so much dum that can be handled. No dum here.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    stop drinking
     
  4. tinman

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    the d&d is full of fake virtue signaling

    how many of the so called rockets fans want transgender power dancers ?
    0.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The right wing's new line of attack is after 100's of years of saying women are 2nd class citizens and being against the ERA - all of a sudden they defend women against transgenderism?

    Explain how bud light sponsoring a transgender woman is misogynistic though, cause I really can't wait to hear the logic.
     
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    umm?
     
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    Still waiting for you to show us where I put women down....ummmm?
     
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    You didn’t address my point whatsoever and have become emotionally charged. You’ve proved what I was saying
     
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    is this response Debate, or Discussion?
     
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    Nah, it wasn't that. The first electric brownie jiggled my eyes a bit, the second gave me the munchies, and the third was one snack over the line.
     
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    This is my first post in this thread. This is where i draw the line personally. The extreme on both ends of the spectrum. I don't believe someone transgender should be competing against women in any capacity to where there are 1st place finishes involved. No one will ever change my mind about that. I didn't watch this video, but demanding changes that dont need to be changed is over the line too.

    The other end of the spectrum is over the line as well. Leave the people alone. I have known several trans people over the years. All have been decent individuals that havent done anything that I remember negative. People who are hung up on this to me are just losers looking for something to moan and complain about. People like Tinman (who reminds me of a r e t @ r d e d parrot at this point) are gdamn pathetic.
     
  15. dmoneybangbang

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    I'll say it again..... conservatives have these weird homoerotic fantasies that they are projecting.

    We all know who is diddling the kids....

    The only line I draw is when it comes to competition.
     
  16. Nook

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    This.

    Transgendered people should be respected like everyone else. They are people, and they deserve respect. People should not harass them or belittle them or be rude to them. If someone tells you that they want to be referred to as a gender different than their sex, then do it - it is common courtesy. Children should be aware that transgendered people exist just like gay people, straight people, and any other group of people - and they should be taught to respect them as people.

    Having said that, the reality is that; a transwoman is not the same as a ciswoman. It is a matter of experience and genetics. This isn't really debatable, it is science. Sex and gender are not the samething. Gender can be debated but sex really cannot be in good faith. Accordingly, the culture and experiences of females need to be respected and appreciated. Females are a minority when it comes to the power dynamic in the world, which is a patriarchy. There needs to be a CLEAR understanding of this fact and an appreciation of it. There are opportunities and domains that belong to females, and males that decide that they are women should NOT encroach or take these opportunities. That does not mean that a male that is a woman cannot call herself a woman etc., but they need to be aware and acknowledge that they were born and raised in a patriarchy with male benefits, and presenting as a woman and becoming a woman does not change that fact - and also have a healthy understand and respect that some things are not for them, even if they want it to be - i.e. competing against females in sports, or in some cases jobs or other areas where females are given preference based on their standing as a repressed minority group.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So let's talk about the bud light example since that seems to be one example that upsets you. Are you arguing that the bud light example upsets you because they are giving money to a transgender women with 10 million followers instead of a woman? Because that's the complaint that many women are responding to her - that she is robbing them of sponsorship dollars.

    I think that's a bit ridiculous - if someone has the skills to accumulate 10 million followers, they certainly seem to have earned the right to sponsorship dollars based on merit. They aren't taking anything away from others. They earned it. It's incredibly hard to be an influencer with that kind of reach, and budlight sponsors plenty of women (and men) with less followers. I don't see how this is wrong? If anything its wrong to tell a business how it should best market its product and gain success as a company.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think the demands person is representative for all trans in their aggressiveness.

    There is clearly folks through survivorship bias who are driven to extremes and a lot of bouts of trauma and therapy to cause them to shout over debates. This marginalizes discussion and cooler heads because when you do, you are labeled "against" suicide victims or candidates.

    Might be a lack of social skills coupled with internet entitlement but leftist activists have long forgotten how to pave roads and do the tough and unseen work necessary to grab and clinch the headlines that wins hearts and minds.

    Because of that, all con shills need to do is react by peddling the exact opposite while dredging up hate and fear of the left to prove any point to their viewers.

    0 discussion and progress. Full on poo flinging.
     
  19. tinman

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    Jeremy Lin fans don’t need him to dress like a girl
    He cries like one
    @AroundTheWorld
     
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