If we don't draft a PG and don't land Harden, who do you want playing point guard next season?

See I disagree, I think the problem with KPJ's defense is in coaching the lack of accountability - KPJ leads the team in steals that is defense - but he is not a great on ball defender because his focus wanes as he plays the passing lanes more than his man - that is so easily corrected by a decent coach.

KPJ can play D, he is just playing the wrong kind of it, atm.

And literally this thread is about KPJ as a PG @OremLK so if you don't like it, then you find a thread about defense, better yet, create it yourself instead.

So, to be clear, if we don't draft a PG, or get Harden, I want KPJ back as PG with a new coach that will have a system to help him and the team thrive.

DD

 

I have zero interest in D'Angelo Russell or Kyle Lowry. I mean maybe if Lowry wants the vet min I'll be happy with that, but otherwise... No.

FVV is nowhere near worth a max-level contract, and that might be what we have to pay in order to get him. He's a nice player but totally replaceable.

Either Jones would be... ok. They wouldn't move the needle for me or for the team, IMO.

TyTy has been bad at the NBA level all year so it's unlikely he will be a starter-quality player in a few months.

Daishen Nix.........

KPJ is someone I still think is best as a bench guy because his weaknesses are too bad to be a guy to be counted on as a starter and closer every night. But, through process of elimination, I guess I would just default to him.

So I guess what I'm really saying is I hope we draft a playmaker or sign Harden, because there aren't any other strong options.

 

KPJ isn't good enough to b our starting pg, u figured two years of being dead last with him as the main pg are reasons enough. I rather we run tyty and see what he got b4 running it back with kpj year 3

 

Yep, 2 years are all KPJ's fault, he was playing 1 v 5 every single night and is the root of the Rox losing - NOT.

DD

 

if the rockets don't get harden and don't draft scoot, well that pretty much means the offseason tracks towards a massive failure

 

Run with TyTy.

We drafted him for a reason. I think he can hold his own with a coach who knows how to coach.

 

Ricky Rubio.

 

KPJ is a great shooter, has good size for the position, and great space creation ability 1v1.

However his PnR game and offensive orchestration are poor for a starting PG and that has systemic effects on the rest of the offense. He plays the PnR at one speed (slow), weirdly never finishes at the rim, and makes erratic passing decisions. We score 92 pts/100 plays in the halfcourt with KPJ at PG, which would be last in the league.

He’s a good player, statistically one of the league’s best 10 guards under 24, and well suited to a 3rd guard role or even starting offball with 2 other guards if one has size.

Preference ranking for next year’s starting PG: Scoot H, Harden, VanVleet, Tyus Jones (trade).

Anything below that line is worse than KPJ and we’ll be winning fewer than 25 games next year.

 

If we don’t sign Harden or get Scoot, trading for Conley would be an option or even Caruso. Would love to see KPJ stay with the team as 6th man getting starter mins.

 

FVV. I'd say Tyus Jones but this team needs an adult. Have TyTy as backup and move KPj to 6th man SG slot. But we need to trade some of these young guys for adults.

FVV-JG-Jabari should be 3 out of starting 5. Sengun is talented but is not immune to matchup problems. Rockets need a big rim runner type for the matchups where he struggles. Not saying he should or should not start but I'm not convinced of it yet. Leaves us with KJ-Tate-TyTy-Garuba-KPj-Tari Eason. Also wouldn't mind next year's draft pick coming off the bench or developing. Even if it's Scoot. No more learning on the job. Bari, Jalen and Alpi had to do this enough. The only rookie we can draft that should start next year is Victor. Everyone else should be on the bench.

FVV/Harden-Green-Free Agent Adult Small Forward-Jabari Smith-Free Agent Rim Runner who can defend

Sengun-KPj-TyTy-Tari-New Rookie-Garuba

If they can't defend they shouldn't be in the starting lineup.

 

precisely this. Harden, scoot or does the right thing/plays defense type vet. Conley is perfect. I would take rubio as well. We can still use kpj at a different role or trade him. Tyty should get the remaining minutes at pg.


If we don’t get anyone, run tyty as first option kpj as second.

 

I’m still rolling with KPJ. We need a better coach though.

 

I don’t get this.

 

Do not want FVV. My opinion of the possible PG targets he will be the worst value return vs the contract he will probably get. Rather stick with KPJ than give him big money.

Lowry is also a huge no. He’s done.

Wouldn’t mind Conley. Still seems capable as a cheaper vet mentor.

 

Coming from you this genuinely surprised me. My faith in humanity restored.

 

Shouldn’t be that surprising. From day 1 my stance hasn’t been one of a blind hater. Just don’t see a team ever being really good with him in a role that has him near the top of the league in ball dominance and taking the 2nd most shots on his team.

With another season in the books my stance hasnt changed much. I like him a lot more as a guy primarily off ball and as probably your 4th volume scoring option.

 

To be fair, landing Wemby would be a massive win. And Harden is always a pipe dream. I’d settle for FVV if no Harden.

 

Honestly, the answer is obvious and has become more obvious over the past several weeks. If no Harden and no Henderson, they'll continue the two combo guard experiment rather than throwing massive contracts at players that wouldn't even be an upgrade.

 

But at quick glance it would appear that FVV has better stats and is a more natural PG -- is it his age that gives you pause? Im not sure he would command break the bank kind of money. I'll be honest I like FVV and he does run a team well.

 

wemby would be a W. but settling for FVV means a massive overpay for something not nearly worth it. I wouldn't categorize that as a big W

FVV is definitely looking to get his last bag that will be his biggest deal for that team desperate to pay

FTR: if the rockets land Wemby, I think that actually is a positive towards harden wanting to come back here rather than not having him