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Can't teach IQ

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Apr 3, 2023.

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Which Rockets rotation player has the highest basketball IQ?

  1. Alperen Sengun

  2. Jalen Green

  3. Jabari Smith

  4. Tari Eason

  5. Kevin Porter Jr.

  6. Josh Christopher

  7. Usman Garuba

  8. TyTy Washington

  9. Daishen Nix

  10. Jae'Sean Tate

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  1. Zen Tabak

    Zen Tabak Member

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    I voted for Usman. He's the guy I never really see making low-IQ mistakes on either side of the ball.

    I would also vote for Tate as well.

    KJ and Sengun have high IQs on offense but don't always make the right read/rotation on D.

    Eason is the opposite.
     
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  2. maj21

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    Just another way for ATW to push his Sengun agenda. I can do that with KPJ by asking who’s the best ball handler and 3 point shooter. Can do it with Jalen by asking who’s the fastest and most explosive. Like come on lol
     
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  3. xiki

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    MJ ‘took off’ after he had a stint as PG late in the ‘80s IIRC. That taught him the game wasn’t just Air Jordan but Mikey and Mates.
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Well, you think KPJ has the highest basketball IQ, so if that were true, how would I have "pushed my Sengun agenda"? lol

    You know it's true, but just couldn't get yourself to vote truthfully.
     
  5. maj21

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    No, it’s a dumb question that nobody should take seriously, so I decided not to. Sengun is the obvious answer.. actually when I think about it, Garuba may be the highest IQ player if include offensive and defensive IQ. Sengun has high offensive IQ, but it’s poor defensively. Maybe Tate could be the answer as well
     
  6. AroundTheWorld

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    So Sengun, Garuba, Tate top 3 (in no particular order)?
     
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    Pretty much.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    But shouldn't ideally the PG (or the person who is most in possession of the ball) be the one with the highest BB IQ?
     
  9. pmac

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    The answer you're probably looking for is Sengun but I think that's partially because sometimes people lump skill and talent with BBIQ.

    Sengun is an extremely skilled post player with a variety of moves and counters that take time, effort, and a natural gift to pull off. He's also a talented passer. When he sees a play developing he can get the ball where needs to go. There are many times where a more experienced player would have seen the play developing and gotten the ball to a teammate on the move with a simple dump off but he may see the play a little later but has the ability to execute those tricky behind the back no look dishes in tight spaces. From a defense standpoint, people complain about his athleticism but honestly most of the bad exchanges I see with him is when he makes poor decisions gambling for deflections instead staying solid and preventing his man from gaining good position.

    My pick is Tate. He's an unathletic 6'4 PF with no advantages in skill or talent yet somehow he scores and plays defense. Sometimes it looks like he's the only one that reads the scouting reports. He and KJ are also the only ones that seems to follow basic fast break principles.
     
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  10. lakersuck2

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    What's less teachable though? Height and athleticism obviously not at all. Shooting (Kawhi) and Dribbling (Giannis) happen but are very rare. Of anything, taking better shots (Tatum, SGA, Booker), defensive positioning, swinging to the open man, all things that come to mind when you mention IQ, are far more teachable.

    When you think about development of NBA players as whole, usually guys just get better at the things they do. It's very very rare that someone enters the NBA without a particular skill and eventually learns it while already in the league. And of the things you CAN teach, IQ is probably the most possible.

    Also, I think, obviously leading question threads are stupid and childish.
     
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    Are could be racist and think Alperan is genetically more prone to higher IQ and therefore believes it's unteachable in that way.
     
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    It's an organizational iq failure. Let's coddle the temperamental child , let the GM call the shots over the coach, let's play predictable offense basketball, let the old ass coach develop these youngins, weak ass training routines and practices.
     
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    Magic Johnson, Chris Paul, Tim Duncan

    Probably among the top 5 highest bball IQ players ever.
     
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    Nix
     
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    For some posters, you could have just made a poll with who has the least amount of melanin and you would get the same result you are looking for.
     
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    Okay? SO IQ can be taught through experience. Is it a coincidence that the person you made this thread for because you know is going to get most voted for also has the most pro experience out of the young group? Is it a coincidence that Garuba also is probably has also some of the highest court awareness on the team who also had pro experience prior?
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    Kaminsky?
     
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    Seems like Alpi did quite ok in his very first pro year ever, winning MVP in probably the third best professional league in the world (Turkey), without prior pro experience.

    Jalen played a year in the G league, Alpi played a year in Turkey.
     
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    Damn, I just realized I put TyTy into the poll instead of KMJ. My bad.
     
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    It’s Sengun closely followed by Eason.
     
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