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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. coachbadlee

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    Bears don't need a QB. They have a star QB already.
     
  2. raining threes

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    With three 1sts and being a 5-6 win team, yes they absolutely could, how many games
    I'm perfectly fine with giving up this to get one of the 2024 QB's

    I'm thinking the two 2024 1sts. Which after trading down I would have three 2024 1sts and I would give this up for Maye or Williams. I also think that McCarthy would be available with the Texans pick. I think Vegas has it right and the Texans aren't going to be good next year. If they're right the Texans won't have to trade anything to get one of Williams or Maye.
     
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  4. raining threes

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    No I don't think that the Texans will do this.

    They should do this though after building the team out in this years draft. A true franchise QB is worth every bit of three 1sts.
     
  5. Hawkeye84

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    A lot of ifs. As I was told when I was young, if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.
     
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    Can’t find in the history of the draft any team giving up three first round pick for any draft choice.
     
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    I don't think that it's necessarily ludicrous that we would be able to get a top pick but I do think that people are underestimating the amount it will cost us.

    Based on what it's cost teams to trade up for lesser prospects plus the fact that the "feeding frenzy" at the top of the draft gets worse with each successive year.
    Plus I don't think it's out of the question Demeco could win 6 or 7 games next year and we could be in the 6-9 draft range.

    I think with those factors in mind the starting point for a "generational" prospect would be three #1's and three #2's with probably a 3rd or two thrown in!
    I don't want to be without a day 1 OR 2 pick for the next 3 drafts in order to get a top prospect!

    San Fran can overcome something similar (but not quite as much) because of a great scouting team and talent base.
    Us, we have neither imo.

    We have a chance (hopefully) at a prospect that if a couple of inches taller would be in that category of QB.
    And the best thing is he's only going to cost............ONE DRAFT PICK!!!
     
  9. Hawkeye84

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    Of course if you are willing to pay any price you can make anything happen. I meant at a price that wouldn’t mortgage the farm
     
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    My biggest problem is treating all picks in future rounds the same. Just as the fist pick is worth 3000 and the 32nd pick is worth 590, so are picks in 2024 and 2025 based on anticipated draft position. So 3 1sts could be 9000 or 1770 in value (not adjusting.)

    Using this year as an example, 1-2 is 2600; 1-12 is 1200 and 2-2 is 580 or a total of 4380 which is higher than 3 average picks of 450, a total of 1350. There is great disparity. In fact, 1-12 (1200) and 73 (225) are worth more than 3 average 1s with 1425 vs 1350.

    So the question is what you pay or give up for the opportunity. If you think Stroud and Young are 2000 worthy and Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are worth 4000, then you have to adjust accordingly and perhaps trade down for 2024 picks or choose a higher valued ED or DI.

    I don't think I need to argue that ARIs 1st round pick in 2024 is more valuable than KCs first round pick in 2024.
     
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    #5551 Marshall Bryant, Mar 31, 2023
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    Understood.
    I think that three #1's and absolutely nothing else would actually be doable for a really, really highly rated QB.
    Problem is I don't think it will be that cheap.

    And you still have to have the talent identification/acquisition to "hit" big on your other picks and I've just seen nothing that screams (or even whispers) that to me!

    Well I guess we can hope that Demeco has a better GM eye than Lovie did!
     
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  14. raining threes

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    What if's

    You either think Vegas will be right or you dont.

    Vegas has a pretty good track record of being right.

    Even if Vegas is wrong, I dont expect more than 7 wins tops, which should put the Texans in the top 10-12 range and having three 1st rd picks should be enough ammo to move up enough to get one of the top 3 QB's.
     
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    You mean the Vegas that said UNC would win the natty in basketball? Vegas hits some and they miss some. NFL teams can’t and luckily don’t plan their future based on what Vegas thinks they will do during the season.
     
  16. raining threes

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    Like I said, Vegas is right far more than they're wrong.

    There's an old saying, People go out of business, Vegas never goes out of business. This old saying has rang true since the 50's.
     
  17. Hawkeye84

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    If you are luke warm on a QB in this draft maybe you wait and take a shot at next year. If they pick a QB this draft it means they are not luke warm but rather all in.
     
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    I like this kid. Would love to take a chance on him in the mid rounds.
     
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    Yes it does, We will see how it turns out, but I feel they're reaching and reaching for the wrong reasons.
     
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    Yes it does, We will see how it turns out, but I feel they're reaching and reaching for the wrong reasons.
     

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