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Another day another mass shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. jo mama

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    did you find out if paul pelosi is gay yet?
     
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    You guys sure know how to derail a thread. Thanks.
     
  3. StupidMoniker

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    Still pushing the repeatedly debunked narrative that Kushner was given 2 billion dollars by the Saudis? Do I give away money to the fund that manages my retirement account every month?
     
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    It isn't giving him money directly. It is helping the business out which is still a personal favor that will increase the wealth of Jared Kushner. The spirit of the narrative that Saudi gave Kushner money is accurate.

    Kushner was in government in a position to help the Saudis. They gave the business from which he derives personal gain 2 billion dollars. It isn't like that because the money went to his business and not his personal account, there is no impropriety.
     
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    If this "victory" is that fulfilling for you, you must not win very often.
     
  6. Houstunna

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    There's nothing wrong with posting pertinent details in headlines

    I've never seen "gay killer" targets "blank"... but have seen "killer targets gay 'blank". Both situations involve gay but one is more pertinent vs the other

    Trans is a hot topic. There's no doubt the fact would be highlighted whether the killer was trans or the targets were trans

    Do you believe trans-women should be playing in women's sports? Do you believe the public's insurance rates should be funding their transformations? Do you believe they should be allowed to change the gender on birth certificates? Do you believe it should be law for them to disclose their birth identification when meeting people, especially romantic relationships? They seem more focused on tricking people rather than simply living their lives

    I do believe violence against them should be classified as hate crimes though

    Furthermore, trans is a choice. While
     
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    i wish that you'd stop with the sleight-of-hand to divert attention from the facts, which are

    and no one has been able to debunk these facts, not even team JaVanka​
     
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    Reading over all this, I'm actually surprised there are not more transgender mass shooters given the trauma they go through. If Transgender make up 1-3% of the population, but account for 1% of mass shootings, that seems in line statistically speaking.

    Regardless, we ultimately end up in the same place. It's too easy for mentally disturbed individuals to get guns. Focusing on whether they are white or trans isn't going to move the needle much, it's just scoring points on the other. Still need a better system and reform to let responsible gun owners have the guns, but keep them out of the crazies.
     
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  9. DonnyMost

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    We do not know if it is pertinent yet, and even if it ends up being germane, it may be a very confusing, non-linear relationship relative to the story.

    Plainly irresponsible journalism.

    Largely no, but I also believe that should be left up to the sports governing bodies and local jurisdictions to hash out on a case by case basis.

    If Doctors in consultation with their clients find it is in their best interest, yes.

    Yes. But it would probably be a good idea to have their sex notated as well, because that can be a life-or-death situation when administering medical care.

    Lmao no. The government should not be involved in your romantic relationships.

    Uhhhhhhhhhh :confused:

    1) Depends on what you mean by trans. Transitioning, yes. But the condition that underlies it? Not buying it.

    2) It doesn't matter
     
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  10. StupidMoniker

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    They didn't give the business the money either. His money management firm is being paid to manage money (after Trump was out of office). I have no problem with the statement that the Saudis are paying Kushner's firm millions of dollars to manage their 2 billion dollar account. That isn't the statement that was made. There is a reason it was phrased that Kushner was given 2 billion dollars, and it is to make it seem like what Biden got was chump change in comparison. It is a dishonest attempt to say Kushner was getting 2000 times more than Biden (or whatever high multiple).

    Same with Trump's Chinese trademarks. She is selling clothing worth a certain amount. Getting approval on the trademark isn't the entire sales of the clothing. She could still sell the clothing without the trademark. The timing is also inaccurate. China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter | AP News According to the AP, her trademark applications were made in 2016, before Trump was President, and granted two years later. Seems like Ivanka's trademarks also took years to complete, just like @astros123 said is normal. They were granted over a two month period, years after the applications were submitted.

    These are clearly deflections from the Hunter Biden story. Hunter was receiving money from foreign entities which it appears was at least partially kicked up to then Vice President Biden while Biden was in office. Trump applied for trademarks before Trump became President and Kushner started managing Saudi Money after Trump left office. These facts are inconvenient so they are ignored.
     
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    I hate to derail this thread further but where's the proof of that? For a libertarian you do go out of the way to defend Republicans on almost anything that's critical of them.
     
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    "The Chinese government granted a total of 41 trademarks to companies linked to Ivanka Trump by April of 2019—and the trademarks she applied for after her father became president got approved about 40% faster than those she requested before Donald Trump’s victory in the 2016 election"

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommyb...tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/amp/
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    IIRC transgender/nonbinary is closer to .5%.
     
  14. StupidMoniker

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    So they took just over a year instead of two years, on an established company that had already had trademarks granted?
    I try to go out of my way to correct inaccuracies where I see them. The board has a strong Dem. bias, so there will naturally be more defense of Republicans than Democrats. Where is the proof that Biden was receiving kickbacks? It comes from a combination of Hunter's laptop, statements from Hunter's associates, and statements from Hunter himself.
     
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    It's obviously a choice. And it matters. You proved it by skipping the sports question. The only other option was to say a woman did it. And of course since women are coddled by society and given special treatment (while simultaneously blaming the big bad patriarchy for all their problems), we could never just say a woman did it
     
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    Your post is exactly the kind of crap women have had to put up with for far too long.
     
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    Yeah. Staying home while their fathers and brothers went off and died in war. Crap. Crap. Crap. Women only want equality when it benefits them

    I'd say the main reason for mass shootings and most of America's problems is the lack of fathers in the household. And the increased progression of women's empowerment leads directly to fewer fathers

    I love women as much as the next guy. But men's efforts are too often taken for granted
     
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  19. DonnyMost

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    I've yet to see a single person "excuse" this.
     
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