Still don't get the love fest for Wemby. Have y'all looked at his French league stats? He's 7'6 inches and shooting 45% from field and 29% from three. He's not even dominating the b league. And I love harden for what he did here. But man it makes no sense to get him back. Unless it's for a real discount. He's not even close to the same player
Can definitely see your point on Wemby, that's why I mentioned him living up to the hype, because there is alot of it out there regarding him. Lot of pressure to be great day one. Agree with the Harden sentiment as well. If he truly wants to be here (at a good price) no way you turn that down though.
Sobering but honest take. Never really did think that Tilman's answer to replacing Morey and D'antoni was with two unproven guys who have been lackluster (Stone) and comical (Silas). This was during a time when we were supposed to compete for a chip. That's the crazy part. My stomach turned when I heard Tilman bought the team and since then the team has taken on his personality. Trashy. But I'm also just starting to question the direction the NBA is going in general. Was Tilman really the best option for the NBA? How? Maybe his gambling connections were important to grow the whole betting thing? He had to basically take out credit to purchase the team. My thinking is that Tilman doesn't really care. He likes the idea of owning the Rockets more than actually running the Rockets. He can get by with his **** restaurants and sad little boardwalks and no one cares. But running the Rockets is different.
Todays core. 1. Jabari 2. Green Trade bait for everyone else, even trade one of core for right deal. DD
You aren't serious right? Harden would literally be the only player in that group that is a better shooter.
You partially got me there. James Harden TS% - 61.0 Alperen Sengun TS% - 59.9 Jalen Green TS% - 53.4 Jabari Smith TS% - 51.3 Victor Wembanyama TS% - undetermined
You said shooting? That's like saying Clint Cappella is a better shooter than Curry because of a higher ts%. Stop being an idiot. Sengun has a totally different shot profile than Green. 100% of jump shots Sengun takes are wide open because that's literally the only time he takes them. Other than that the dude is doing 5 ft push shots and baby hooks at the restricted area. That's the limit of his offensive game. Of course he's going to have a higher ts%. Almost all bigs will have a higher scoring efficiency than guards, doesn't make them better shooters.
I can see this too but frankly even if he's just that height with those handles, you can build his whole game from scratch. You start with a 3pt shot and teaching him how to anchor a defense. That will take 2 years I think, but if you succeed you're talking about a top 30 player before he turns 22.
I hope I’m being wildly, overly pessimistic. Time reveals all. As to the league allowing the sale of our team to Tilman, @MystikArkitect, Les made an absolute killing. It was “hands off” by the league, even to the extent of letting Alexander finance part of the purchase so Fertitta could manage it. As far as I know, Tilman still pays Les a regular dime on that part of the deal. Anyone know? I guess the league wants it’s owners and potential owners to know that at least when it comes to the money, it’s largely hands off. They step in when ownership acts beyond the pale in other areas. The Suns are a good example of that, in my opinion.
Let me drop a few names of some GUARDS who have, and let's pick an arbitrary TS% number of 57% or Higher and see how many come up: Steph Curry - 65.8% Damian Lillard - 64.5% Isaiah Joe - 63.8% (whoever that is) Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - 62.5% Josh Hart - 62.4% Tyrese Haliburton - 62.4% Kevin Huerter - 62.4% Terance Mann - 62.35 Collin Sexton - 62.0% Malcolm Brogdon - 61.8% Grayson Allen - 61.6% Damion Lee - 61.3% Norman Powell - 61.1% Kyrie Irving - 61.1% James Harden - 61.0% Zach Lavine - 61.0% Buddy Heild - 60.9% Donovan Mitchell - 60.7% Derrick White - 60.5% D'Angelo Russell - 60.4% Desmond Bane - 60.4% Devin Booker - 60.3% De'Aaron Fox - 60.2% Alec Burks - 60.2% Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 60.1% Tyrese Maxey - 60.0% I think I'm going to stop there. 26 guards shooting 60% or higher. There's another 7 at 58% or above and the list goes on. The point is Jalen Green is not a good shooter. Yes, he's young but he's not improving and if he's chucking up the most shots, you probably aren't going to go very far so why don't YOU stop being an idiot and pay attention.
Dude all this effort and yet you just dodged my point. Did I ever make a claim that Green is more efficient than Curry? You are making a claim that Alperan Sengun is a better SHOOTER than Green. Again, last season Steph Curry was a 60% ts scorer and this year Cappela is a 65% ts scorer. Does that mean this year Capella is a better shooter than last season's version of Curry? Stop being a god damn Idiot.
*Build around: Green - will be a multiple time all star and has potential to lead the league in scoring while rattling off 5 assist per game. Not someone who carries a team by himself (Lebron, Luka, Harden, etc), but Green is going to have some amazing big time performances for us in the future. He'll be a top 15 player in the league at some point. We still need a true franchise guy (low odds at Wemby or via trade) or another top 15 player to pair with him that also complements him Jabari - will not be a 1A on a championship team, but that doesn't matter. He'll be exactly who he needs to be for a winning team. Versatile defender, will be a lights out shooter (despite his rough rookie season), and when the play is set up for him, he can use mismatches to get easy mid range buckets. Championship level piece Would only trade if we are getting a no-brainer upgrade: Tari - every team needs a guy like Tari. He is a winner who does winning things. We dont have to "try to fit him in"... just put him into any lineup at any time of the game and he'll make good things happen. He can be the next Bridges-lite or OG-lite if we groom him right Not looking to trade, but would listen: Sengun - one of the hardest players to forecast going forward. Our offense was at its best with Sengun at the center of it. He was probably our best player this year. But, I still bounce back and forth with Sengun. He's one of my favorite Rockets so if we were to trade him it would have to be as a part of a deal for a star. KMJ - does a lot of the little things at a high level and fits well with Green/Sengun/Bari... but there's tons of upgrades to be made Tyty - definitely feels like he's underrated as a backup point gaurd of our future Trade em: KPJ - very talented, just don't trust him in our future Nix - garbage Used to consolidate into 1 single better player Tate - will help a championship level team or a playoff team. Josh Christopher - he would benefit a ton from going into a situation where he can be developed properly and that's not here. Talented, hard working, and has a good future in the NBA Garuba - Great switch defender and makes the right passes. Other than that don't care about him. *When I say build around Green/Bari that doesn't mean they're untradeable, but the trades that involve them that I'd do are probably unrealistic to begin with.
Great summary. With Sengun, you need to have a offensive system that gets him the ball, and by that I am not saying posting him up. He will use his post up skills anyway but the key thing is to utilize a combination of his face up game, post up game and passing skills. If he is not getting 5-6 assists minumum, he has little value, like we have been watching lately. So for me, he is either build around or trade him depending on how you plan your future. I think with the right coach, it will be obvious that he is part of the core.
Slow your roll. If your least efficient or one of your most inefficient shooters is taking the most shots you are probably going to lose a lot of games. I don't know how that is a difficult concept for you to understand?
Hard for me to draw such a conclusion based on a guard playing on the worst team in the league. Jalen invents his shots every time he touches the ball. I'm amazed he makes as many as he does. Fast forward a couple years when he's surrounded by more vets, playing on a team with some sort of identity (ie, everybody knows their role), and he's established a "signature move" (or two), then I'd expect Jalen's TS% to go up.
