For some on the left...intolerance has become the rule

I think the deductive reasoning you are using is flawed here. Just because both sides brought up political beliefs doesn't mean that was the reason he was asked to leave. That's a leap to make. The owner stated they were using terms that were degrading to women and being loud. That it was a disturbance to other customers. Just because the other side didn't admit to it, doesn't mean it is not true. The truth isn't likely just to be what both sides agree on. Furthermore, it is unlikely that the Fox Host has mind reading capabilities to know the owners full reasons. They clearly are going to tell the story in a way that supports their agenda, and that bias needs to be acknowledged - something you haven't yet done. The owner did not go out in a big public way, they kept relatively quiet. But in their explanation is appeared to give a fuller account. This is why I believe that the owner is giving a broader picture while the Fox News host is not.

As for you and how you behaved, you are mistaken that I can't make an assessment. I have seen you post on this forum for 20 years and you have a track record of not being disruptive. It would be very peculiar if you did behave that way. So while it is possible, it's most likely you did in a respectful manner thus showing the two situations are not comparable.

 

wouldn’t be surprised if the owner apologized to this clown and said she was in the wrong just to get the heat off of her business

 

If I go to a Jewish owned Deli and start talking loudly with friends about how Soros owns the NY D.A. and funds the Democrats. He is evil,etc. I would expect to be asked to leave, but that's just me.

 

Right?

this whole situation is honestly laughable and pathetic, but a conservative is a master at pretending to be a victim

someone goes to MAGA Bar and Grill and loudly talks about white privilege or whatever, then gets asked to leave…Are we then supposed to entertain their victim tour and book promotion?

 

Believe it or not, that’s quite a common occurrence in here. It’s the same 10-12 posters who live in this forum talking about how every non liberal is a disgrace to society because they don’t have more tweets to post as facts.

I go to this part of the forum to get a laugh most of the time. Sometimes it worries me about what society will be in 50 years. The movie Idiocracy comes to mind

 

Do you think the creative talent who wrote that movie as a parody would agree with your take here?

 

These same guys believe that they are in the majority because most people (like you, rightfully) don't really bother to engage with these extremists. But you can see how angrily and downright hateful they react when someone doesn't agree with them.

It's super easy to trigger them.



Basically, same energy as the leftists on this subforum.

 

The right can hide all they want…. But we all know who is legislating discrimination.

@AroundTheWorld can post all the YT videos he wants but he gets real quiet when you actually talk about his side is doing with legislation.

 

I don't have a side.

And I never get quiet.

 

Sure you do…. All your YT and posts indicate a side.

You’ve been quiet in the DeSantis thread after being real talkative..

 

The Right doesn’t have the market on intolerance and self important rhetoric. There is quite a bit of it on the extreme left as well.

There are differences, and I believe that the Right is worse about attempting to pass laws on it - but in social media and cancel culture, there is plenty of it on the left as well.

 

Yes, I would.

 

dudes will post right wing media and talking points all day, then claim they’re not right wing or conservative

Why be so disingenuous? Is it shame?

 

The world is not black and white.

E.g. I'm fiscally conservative and generally libertarian, I'm against cancel culture, agree with DeSantis' "anti-woke" agenda and strongly agree with DeSantis' handling of the pandemic, but think Trump is a malignant narcissist and conman, and should have gone to jail after Jan. 6th. I am also totally anti-guns and anti-NRA. I don't agree with DeSantis on abortion either. I also don't agree with him on Ukraine, at all. I personally like Obama, dislike Trump, think DeSantis is kind of socially awkward.

Some people have their own opinions and they don't necessarily fit any particular party line.

In real life, I have good friends who are very "left" and I have more conservative friends.

 

Yeah the power dynamics depends on the party in office. After Trump was elected, there were plenty of smug folk being openly nasty and I'm sure there were threads spawned on here about how nasty or intolerant cons really are.

 

It appears you are relying on bias yourself to make a judgment of the situation. You’re basically stating that you don’t agree with the Fox News host so you believe the restaurant owner. That is hardly an objective assessment.

I appreciate it but that’s also relying upon a bias in this case towards myself. Whatever you think of me you don’t know who else was with me or any of their history.

 

Yes probably true and I’m not making a claim regarding the validity of the ideas but the issue of whether a business should be discriminating based on ideological beliefs. The answer seems to be that “yes they should.”

@StupidMoniker has stated this clearly and I appreciate his consistency in this. That said I’ve noticed that there are those who have argued against the ability to private business to discriminate for a variety of reasons seem fine with this type of discrimination.

On the flip side the argument about “intolerance on the Left” at the basis of this thread well it is the Right that has enabled this by literally going to court to allow businesses to discriminate for ideological reasons.

Speaking personally I’m not making this debate for Devil’s Advocate reasons. While a business might have the right to discriminate for ideological reasons I think this is another sign of the dangerous divide in our society. That the mere presence of speech and ideas they we find disagreeable means that we should not only associate with those who make that speech we should ban them.

 

If that's bias then you are basically saying all character witnesses in a trial are biased.

I am not sure why you would take the side of a Fox News host who has a lot more incentive to distort the truth then someone who isn't really looking to go to the media. You may not realize that your desire to be impartial and not appear overly liberal is driving your assessment here - bias.

 

I'll admit, loud liberals with their alphabet soup of sexual identity and virtue signaling on everything under the sun are easily the most insufferable and often intolerant group of people you will ever meet. You almost want to vote against their interest just to spite them.

But as of 2023 the republican party is evil, and I feel no need to say I am overstating that. They are doing everything they can to take away rights and just in general set the country back by nuking anything that makes lives better or the populace smarter. And unlike the annoying liberals, they are actually passing laws to this end.

Nothing, and I mean nothing, better encapsulates the I got mine mindset of republicans



So anybody currently supporting the republican party can just STFU as far as I'm concerned.

 

Bill Clinton and his brother were raised by a single mom, working on minimum wage jobs assisted by welfare and food stamps

unlike Boebert, Bill Clinton was a high school graduate.
he later won a scholarship to attend Georgetown, then Yale Law school.