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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. zeeshan2

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  2. HeyBudLetsParty

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    I want the Texans to get a pass rusher at 12, but they for sure need a receiver with that pick of top of the 2nd. If there’s no value at pass rusher I’d look to trade down to around 20 and hope JSN slides or take whoever slides (Johnson, Addison, Flowers) with pick 33
     
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    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    JSN doesn't have good speed. I see him as a possession receiver like a Hunter Renfroe. A nice piece, but not an alpha #1 WR.
     
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    Just 1 more month of rumors, anonymous sources, smoke screens…lol
     
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    He was faster than Cooper Kupp and DeAndre Hopkins, based off a 40, and the same speed as Deebo Samuel.

    A shade slower than Julio Jones and Justin Jefferson.
     
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    you don’t need speed if you can run clean routes
     
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    Did you see Kylers weight at the combine? 207 lbs.
    Simple math 207 - 204 does not equal 15.

    Listed playing weight at Oklahoma? 195lbs. Simple math 195 - 194 does not equal 15.

    Isn’t it absolutely insane, someone so short is ranked at the top end of the first round?
     
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    Cooper Kuop ran a 4.62 and his route tree is unreal.
     
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    If a QB doesn't have the ability to be a top 5 QB they shouldn't draft them in the top 5. That doesn't mean they shouldn't draft a guy like Hooker at 2-33. Elite talent should always be drafted in the top 5. That doesn't mean that a QB shouldn't be drafted. In fact I would draft one every 2 to 3 years until I found my guy. In this years draft I would draft either Hooker at 2-33 or Bennett in the 4-5th rd range, or maybe both. Then draft another QB high in the 2024 draft.

    I'm sorry if I come off as talking down to posters, but this would be my plan.
     
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    How many games do you think they will win next year?
     
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    Yep, it's going to happen and the Texans org will get what they deserve for making this choice. No championships and a few more wins that will put the butts back in the seats. Which is the McNair's ultimate goal anyways.
     
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    Yep because we know building a great defense always leads to a super bowl……..
     
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    So do you think Maye and Williams can both be top 5 quarterbacks?


    I think you've said there are 4 next year you like better than any this year. Just interested to hear, so we can pull this up in a year.
     
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    I believe they have the ability to develop into top 5 QB's. I dont see this with any QB in this class. McCarthy and Nix have the ability to be starting QB's in the Daniel Jones/Goff/Dak mode.
     
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    Building a great team, not just a great defense.
     
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    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...tball-flex-roger-goodell-contract-and-latest/

    —Bryce Young helped himself more than C.J. Stroud in their pro days last week, from the sound of it. A rep of a team that will likely draft a quarterback this year told me Sunday: “If you watch Bryce Young, and you didn’t know he was 5’10”, you wouldn’t think about his height. It was a disadvantage from the tape I watched.” This team has Young as its top quarterback, for what it’s worth. I’d been told previously that Young, in not getting many passes batted down at the line, has a sense of playing bigger than he is. It’s just one of the factors that has to be weighing on Carolina as the Panthers consider what to do at number one—take Young, or take the quarterback five inches taller in Stroud. As of Sunday night, no team here had been in contact with the Panthers about trading the top pick, and it’d likely be a useless venture, at least now. Carolina has no interest in moving the pick.

    —I won’t be surprised, unless Seattle takes him at five, if Jalen Carter drops out of the top 10. I view Seattle as a team that isn’t as scared off by players with character concerns as some other teams are. I asked the coach of a team outside the top 10 who is very interested in Carter and has researched him. The issue with Carter’s alleged involvement in speeding in connection with the accident that killed two people from the Georgia program is worrying, he said, and his team is still looking into that. “There are concerns there,” this coach said, “and I don’t know where we’ll end up on that. But as far as football goes, I don’t view the concerns there that would prevent us from drafting him. I’ve heard about him not practicing hard. I understand, and that could be an issue. But he’s such a freak of nature.” The point: talent shrinks big issues.

    Three nuggets from Mel Kiper:

    —“I’m looking at 35 to 40 corners that I think will play in the league out of this draft,” Kiper said the other day. “Deepest position in the draft.” Think about that. About 85 percent of draftees make practice squads or active rosters coming out of camps. So imagine 220 rookies make a team or a practice squad this year. And imagine 38 corners are in that group. That would mean 17 percent of the rookies who make it out of camp are corners—for a position that produces three of 23 “starters,” if you consider the nickel corner a starter. That’s 17 percent of the make-it rookies for three spots.

    —Kiper’s very bullish on Ole Miss corner Emmanuel Forbes. “Fourteen career interceptions, six pick-sixes—one off Will Levis this year. He’s 6’1”, ran a 4.35 at the combine, missed only one game in his career and it wasn’t for an injury.” Where do I sign? Only problem is, Forbes is thin as a rail, 166 pounds.

    —Kiper on Florida QB Anthony Richardson: “He was superman against Utah, just incredible. And then the next week against Kentucky, he completes 40 percent of his passes, throws a couple picks. There were times this year where he flashed it again, but there were times this year where he’s missing layups. Then he’s missing throws in the middle of the field. He’s missing throws deep. Missing throws to all levels. Missing, like I said, bubble screens. He’s bouncing it to the left, bouncing it to the right. Low with the throw, high. That’s the inconsistency with accuracy that bothers you … I think the time he needs will be provided by a team like Seattle, a team that can allow him time. He’s only got 13 career starts. That’s it! That’s a red flag. Again, the inexperience is a factor against him. But if you can let him, I say let him sit, watch and learn. People say, ‘Ah, you can’t do that!’ Well, you have done it. Patrick Mahomes sat for a year. K? He’s still young. He’s only 21 years of age. I think Seattle would be perfect, with Geno Smith there. If Geno continues to be great, then Anthony Richardson waits. If Geno’s just a one-year wonder, then you got Anthony developing. It’s kind of a win-win. It’s a bonus pick for Seattle in the Russell Wilson trade. I think Seattle, to me, on paper, logically, thinking it out, would be the perfect spot for him.”
     
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    Yeah, and then we'll know what to gripe about and second guess.
     
  20. Hawkeye84

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    Texans already have a possession receiver in Metchie, if he is healthy. I would think he and JSN run about the same speed.
     
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