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[Player Assessment] Kevin Porter Jr.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dankstronaut, Mar 18, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    100% correct.

    Harden (Plan A)
    Or someone like Tyus Jones (Plan B)
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    OH NO! Not an accident!!!

    If the Rockets land Wemby, they'll likely add Harden too, Harden will want to play with KPJ and Green....that'll mean you have starting slots for Wemby, Harden, KPJ, and Green.....if it comes down to Smith VS Sengun for that last starter spot, your guy is out.

    I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it is. They'll want to play 5 out or if they bring in a post type 5, Harden will want an above the rim option.

    Your fake percentages and laughable player analysis is fun, but they aren't really something you can expect me to take seriously.

    Don't worry, we'll revisit this conversation this summer when we know more.....but it's fairly likely the Rockets move on from Sengun no matter what.

    Maybe, but Wemby is a Euro too, and that's really all that matters to ATW. So he'll probably just ramp up his already hilarious rhetoric against KPJ and maybe add a few more Rockets to the list of those he irrationally despises.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    lol nope
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Factually inaccurate and not at all supported by anything.

    The main reasons the team hasn't played well is due to Green and Smith being terrible at basketball for the vast majority of the season.

    Green is still one of the very worst defensive players in the entire team and for the majority of the season he's been a low efficiency chucker.....that alone REALLY harms the team.

    Smith on the other hand, has been mediocre defensively and a complete waste of a roster spot offensively for the vast majority of the season. He had a hot streak a little while ago....and unsurprisingly the Rockets went 5-3 during that time.

    Now sure, it's a lot to ask for young players to not be terrible at basketball, but if those two top 3 players were even decent most of the season, the Rockets win a LOT more games.

    KPJ on the other hand, is not just one of the best overall players on the team, but he's the most consistently good player on the roster. The difference in his numbers in wins and losses is negligible. Compare that to Green or Smith, on the rare occasions they happen to play worth a damn, the team usually wins. Them being a net positive is the difference between winning and losing....but they are rarely a net positive.
     
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    Oh yeah? You don't think he'll want to play with players he has a pre existing personal relationship with?

    You think he'll come in and ask for the most consistently good shooter on the team to be gone?

    Look, I get it, you can't see beyond your cognitive bias.....but if you could, you'd be laughing at yourself right now.

    Harden isn't going to want a slow goofy Euro clogging up his driving lanes, he's going to want shooters and above the rim threats. Sengun is neither.

    I'm not saying he's not a good player, I personally like him a lot and I've consistently said that he's had the best season overall of all the Rockets....but the fit just isn't there with Harden. You might as well start accepting this now.
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    KPJ is a headcase, a knucklehead, and he will be gone under a new coach.

    Men who hit women in the face (unless in self-defense against a potentially fatal attack) even once never become good people. It's a near 100% sign of someone being a bad person from the core. Add the history of other transgressions and you know this is not someone you want around your other young players.
     
  7. Stephen_A

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    Also interesting to note that while Tate isn’t a great pg by any means but when he’s playing 1, he can make passes KPJ can’t. Tare can make cross court passes or find the corners—something KPJ rarely does. This is why having a good point is so important. Guys like Haliburton and Morant make plays all over the court luring defenders in and finding shooters or guys in the paint. This is what’s lacking with this team. So much wasted action with dribble handoffs that go nowhere or a guy passing the ball right back to the passer after receiving a pass. And very few passes to the corners. I haven’t seen any team do this besides the Rockets. Rox Really need a pg badly.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    KPJ makes those passes too, let's not make **** up because we don't like him....he has a different style but he has made plenty of cross court or cross formation passes.

    For a guy that has been playing PG less than 2 years with guys who struggled to shoot, KPJ has been fricken amazing, people are just not patient enough to see the growth...but it is there in a big way.

    DD
     
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  9. AroundTheWorld

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    lol low iq posters like low iq players
     
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  10. Stephen_A

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    No he doesn’t. Who said anything about not liking him. That’s your words. Stop being an emotional bi+ch
     
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    Players are getting plenty of open shots, they just rarely hit them. Blaming the PG for players missing wide open shots is....well it's one kind of take I guess.
     
  12. Stephen_A

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    whats cross a formation pass lol now that’s making **** up
     
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    Y’all be lying about KPJ lol
     
  14. No Worries

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    KPJ included?
     
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    Too long. And your reasoning isn’t supported by anything but judgements. I explained how they take a long time in the half court and holding the ball for too long especially KPJ which is backed statistically as i have posted on this site numerous times.
     
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    Multiple things can be true. If you disagree with the below I think you’re being disingenuous or have a pro or anti-KPJ agenda that diverges from actuality.

    1. KPJ is our best or second best basketball player presently
    2. Our team looks much worse without KPJ, because we have no other NBA caliber lead guards
    3. KPJ plays a style of basketball that is stylistically unappealing (overdribbling, slow to move the ball) and not great for development of other players or good “team basketball” habits
    4. KPJ has shown slow but steady improvement on all fronts, and point #3 has improved post all star break
    5. KPJ will have depressed value across the league for the foreseeable future, due to off court reputation and stylistic concerns
     
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    disagree with the reason in 5. I think his oncourt attitude is more important for his value. Also the fact that no other team will give him that kind of minutes, usage or a similar role.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    Our team is weaker without kpj b/c we have no guards to replace his production and value currently. U think nix/tyty gonna put up his numbers?

    That being said kpj blows as the pg/primary playmaker, he can potentially b better in a few years or even earlier, but hindering the development of the other youngsters just for him to b a competent at playmaking is just a waste of time.

    Just grab harden/an actual pg (not FVV) and send kpj to the bench where he will excel as a sixth man with the playmaking skills he learn. Anyone suggesting that green should b sent to the bench instead is just an idiot.

    I can see him taking kmj spot on the starting line up, since kmj is probably the best candidate on the team for sixth man. But can kpj beat eason/new draftee out? probably not if they are taller and a better defender.

    KPJ is talented just isn't a pg yet if ever. it is what it is.

    Smith isn't replacing sengun as a center any time soon, there will b occasions where smith can play center, but that's not a full time position for the youngster
     
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    That’s “stylistic concerns”
     
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  20. Bobbythegreat

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    My reasoning is supported by the stats.....as I explained to you in the previous post....but apparently you don't have the attention span to read more than a sentence or two.

    Try reading the whole thing if you want to attempt to disagree.
     

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