1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Climate Change

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    Just like cheap lead was a good way to provide drinking water or cheap asbestos was a good way to provide fireproofing..
     
    subtomic likes this.
  2. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,344
    Likes Received:
    9,280
    do you?
     
    AroundTheWorld likes this.
  3. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,344
    Likes Received:
    9,280
    I will believe folks are serious about this when Davos is held on Zoom, and we stop powering electric vehicles with coal fired plants.
     
    rocketsjudoka and AroundTheWorld like this.
  4. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    This thread is an example of why we probably are already screwed. The vast majority of scientists who study this (not all) agree that the climate is warming and that human factors are causing it. You don’t have to be a scientists to see that. I’ve heard first hand from elderly Minnesotans some who are Trump voting conservatives talk about how winters “ain’t what dey used to be ya know”. The changes to forest are obvious to people who’ve hunted for a long time. Even with a very wet year this year doesn’t make up for decades of drought in the West that is visible to anyone who visits lake Mead. And again for those who live in FL and TX check to see how much more money is being spent to deal with things like “coastal erosion” and seawater infiltration in your state.

    Yet we still have denial and obfuscation on full display.

    We’re likely already past the tipping point where climate change can be reversed and while I don’t believe this is the end of humanity it’s certainly going to be much more miserable for many and it’s going to be very costly to keep and maintain the civilization that we have.
     
    subtomic likes this.
  5. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    Sure there is a lot of hypocrisy out there.
     
  6. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,565
    Likes Received:
    17,545
    cheap, reliable, portable, dense, abundant energy

    which most take for granted

    not to mention the massive benefit to plant life
     
  7. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,565
    Likes Received:
    17,545
    this is another problem, where an obsession with controlling the earth's temperature and not emitting the C02 plants crave takes priority over more acute environmental concerns, like ensuring we have clean water
     
  8. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,054
    Likes Received:
    15,229
    Most of the western world is phasing out coal fired plants. But even right now in the United States with coal's share of the generation stack being what it is, it's still cleaner to use grid electricity than it is to burn unleaded gasoline.

    Ironic, since in this country it's the party of climate denial that is also the party that opposes efforts to ensure clean water.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,183
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    If you want to live in willful ignorance and believe the world is flat, you have that right and that's your choice. One that I respect actually.

    If you want to actually start learning the truth.

     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,183
    Likes Received:
    20,334

    By his own admission, he isn't a scientist that studies climate science:

    "Research interests include conditions of early Earth during the initiation of life; constraining the amount of continental lithosphere through time; understanding the flux and timing of asteroids impacting the Earth-Moon system and the association with major extinction events; medical mineralogy and the evolution of the Himalaya and the Tibetan Plateau. I also enjoy musing about climate on social media."

    Let's follow the science, not someone's musings.
     
  11. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,565
    Likes Received:
    17,545
  12. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,344
    Likes Received:
    9,280
    Still hasn't been to Palestine.
     
    AroundTheWorld likes this.
  13. SuraGotMadHops

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    6,613
    Likes Received:
    8,188
    I went ice fishing in MN last month, and it was -9 degrees. What is it supposed to be, -300?
     
    basso likes this.
  14. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,565
    Likes Received:
    17,545
  15. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2000
    Messages:
    18,808
    Likes Received:
    5,213
    Gotta love the assortment of vehicles going by some of them look like they have no business being part of the 75 vehicle convoy
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    Of course because there was no CO2 prior to burning fossil fuels.

    Higher temperatures aren’t good for many plants especially when it leads to drought. Also things lien increased global temperatures lead to greater growth of things like algae blooms that affect clean drinking water.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2007
    Messages:
    58,167
    Likes Received:
    48,334
    I suppose you weren’t there the days it was raining in January and in the upper 30’s.

    again as stated climate isn’t weather.
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,281
    [​IMG]
     
  19. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,079
    Likes Received:
    23,354
    Republicans want to prioritize acute environmental concerns by advocating for the abolition of the EPA. LOL.
     
  20. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,565
    Likes Received:
    17,545
    few professing concern about climate change live as if they do

     
    AroundTheWorld likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now