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Desantis seeks to punish Disney for disagreeing with him

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 31, 2022.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Thank you based desantis
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    In this new parody you are playing, is it only the social views that changed for you or also economic views?
     
  3. leroy

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    Not at all. I just don't give a s*** about what color Ariel is going to be. It's not a woke anything. It's just being a not-pissed-off-at-the-world-for-reasons-beyond-understanding kind of person. You and literally no one else in the world is in any, way, shape, or form affected by the casting choice of a kids movie. You can certainly choose not to watch it. I don't plan to...but I no longer have young children that would want to see it nor am I a Disney-phile like my sister-in-law. But if the reason is because the fictional movie that's about a mermaid has the mermaid being black, then, again, the problem isn't with the casting. It's with you. If Velma is now played by an Indian woman...so f***Ing what? If they re-did Peter Pan and made one of the fictional characters Black, how does that in any way affect you? People who agree with you are boycotting something because of a retelling of a fictional story. It's not like they went in and did a bio of Larry Bird and had him played by Michael B Jordan. Peter Pan isn't real. Velma isn't real. Ariel definitely isn't real. And the color of their skin played no parts in the stories they were a part of...so what in the entire f*** does it matter if they're not played by white people the second time around?

    The only reason Disney might be losing money on these movies/shows is because they underestimated just how many racist a***holes there are. That sucks for their bottom line right this minute but I'm willing to bet they figure things out and will be just fine without them.
     
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  4. tinman

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    None of you watched she hulk brehs
    And apparently didn’t watch ant man too
     
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  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What does Disney layoffs have to do with this debate at all (whataboutism)? DeSantis is the one punishing groups that speak out against him, employees, attornies, non-profits, corporations, and whole communities.

    If you are ok with him abusing power like that, you really have to question if you truly believe in the ideals of freedom and meritocrisy.
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    I see a couple of problems - if I am a business person and I purchase an intellectual product that built itself as valued to a billion dollars - I cannot see any reason to change the formula and I get what you're saying there's been different versions of Spider-Man he's been introduced with the black suit as an example , web shooters versus no web shooters so on and so forth... I'm sure there's other and better examples you got a point there but what drives the passion of fans is to change as little as possible because it's already proven itself and that's the point

    There is a reason companies try to protect the original material because they don't want it changed because it cheapens things up- or they don't get in the profits- but when a company owns the intellectual idea and intentionally change then there is no loss of potential profit. The problem becomes when there is a loss and this has been demonstrated so my suggestion is it is possible to change things up while still respecting the original material just like they did with : into the spider verse- it was a film that had heart, realness and everybody whether you're on the left or the right did not feel like this was an agenda driven thing - so imagine if the writers said, you know what we don't even need to include the caricatures of the original Spider-Man- we don't need to show that the MC had a troubled black uncle, and yet a father in the police force, as well as a mother living at home- this hits home because this is reality. We all know someone in our family who is just not cutting it as well as someone that we can look to as a role model. It doesn't matter your color. This is why I want diversity but I wanted to work with respecting original content because when you do that you're going to have a good story - I firmly believe it

    Hey, I got to salute you - you took the time to have a serious discussion and I really appreciate that and you actually brought up some good points- the whole point is not to win an argument, but just bounce ideas on why we feel one way versus the other- so while I may disagree, I really appreciate how you presented your counter idea
     
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    I'm not seeing much supposed punishment from the governor lol - what Disney needs to do is readdress their direction I would think
     
  8. ROXRAN

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    They can't support it even if they agree with Disney politics lol
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    Do you label yourself a libertarian?

    @Os Trigonum, do you see why I think American libertarianism is just mostly a fascist ideology?

    Look at this dude's rhetoric about state control of businesses if there don't follow their opinions on social matters.
     
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  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    He fired people who supported gay rights (that was ruled unconstitutional), he tried to revoke the Special Olympics unless they banned transatheltes, so they did, he put a muzzle on teachers, and he's revoked Disney's special status for challenging him on gay rights.

    That's all punishment, and all abuse of power.

    If you are ok with this, than it means you are fine with the ends justify the means. Therefore, I don't want you to ever complain about a Democrat abusing power again. You can't play both sides. EIther you are ok with politicians abusing power, or you are not.
     
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    What about the remake of Pinocchio ?
    Or when they woke lightyear?
     
  12. ROXRAN

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    I'll look into it more closely, but I try to examine both sides that's what I will try to do before coming to an absolute conclusion- so far I haven't seen anything that he's "punishing" Disney.

    He simply being a good governor for my perspective -what I do know is that Disney is demonstrating punishment with the loss of jobs because the general populace have not bought in to the agenda programming. - to me that's the real punishment and it's coming from Disney to ordinary people- some of whom I'm sure are very loyal or perhaps not later this year
     
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    Exactly. It's a repeat string of failures that has culminated in what's going to be thousands upon thousands of job losses... I really feel bad for those that are losing those jobs - 4000 people is a lot of people and it may not stop there quite honestly - who would feel comfortable working for Disney right now?
     
  14. DaDakota

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    This after themselves recasting JESUS as a white man when he was Arabic.

    DD
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    Why is this a matter of state intervention. Let's say a private company decides their business model is wokism. Why should the state intervene? You are a libertarian?
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    He's not. In all honesty, he's using the culture wars to try to gain political power. I mean to some degree that's politics, but I think he is going too far with it. He's a populist, much in the mold of Trump. There are Republicans who I respect despite strongly disagreeing with. Even though I know they have to take positions for their base. But DeSantis is not that. He is stoking fires.

    I wouldn't bother debating you if I didn't think you were a solid guy and a decent human being. I know you are. So I'm glad to hear you will look into it more.
     
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    Kind of odd to see capitalists b****ing about capitalism isn't it?
     
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    The next thing you will be telling me is the green M&M isn't real. I can't take this **** anymore! Damn those boots were sexy.
     
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    As long as capitalism supports their culture wars then they are okay….
     
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  20. StupidMoniker

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    I watched all of She-Hulk. I watched the first two Ant-Man movies and will watch Quantumania when it comes to Disney+ (why am I going to pay theater prices when I am already paying for streaming?). I am hardly what anyone would call woke. People like what they like and have varying tolerance for executive meddling, for whatever reason.
     
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