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Desantis seeks to punish Disney for disagreeing with him

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 31, 2022.

  1. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

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    Here is what would save 4000 jobs and help make Disney more profitable. I mean if they care about these 4000 employees this is something they should consider and I guarantee it would help..

    Here's what I would do

    1. stop using original material and re-organizing it...How about that for starters? Get an idea from a clean fresh foundation, rather than borrowed ideas-

    2. if you have to use original material, respect the original material- if the fact that Peter Pan cast doesn't have enough black representation fine then don't make it make something else- a perfect example of a film that did this was into the spider verse. They completely acknowledged the original Spider-Man while integrating the new black morales character- see this is the distinction. I don't think people pick up on is they respected the original material- they also made it real- it was NOT trying to portray Black people as people in a positive light like many woke shows often do as an idea - they showed reality there is good and bad people regardless of race there's monsters every which way- so they showed a black policeman -they showed a traditional family. (This is not woke elements.) - Into the spiderverse. Done the right way - it wasn't Velma where every white character was portrayed a certain way and non whites portrayed another way - it was based on realness not ideology

    3. Go ahead - here's the surprising thing go ahead and do your representation and diversity - I'm completely fine with it. - but if you do it respect the two points that I made above and it will be done a lot better with less push back from everyone
     
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  2. ROXRAN

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    I keep hearing all this talk about DeSantis "punishing" the woke idol known as "Disney".

    but here's the thing if you are a Disney employee, who would you have more to fear from DeSantis or Disney itself? ...
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol…. Why should DeSantis even be entering the conversation in a capitalist society?
     
  4. dmoneybangbang

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    Plain and simple…. Conservatives are upset that US society has gotten to a point where kids are being told it’s okay being gay or trans. Conservatives want their undesirables to stay marginalized.

    We saw what happened when blacks folks were gaining equality…. Jim Crow. We are currently undergoing a Jim Crow 2.0.
     
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  5. ROXRAN

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    And yet Disney is going to punish 4000 employees rather than take projected course corrections
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    I don't know some thing about punishing Disney, but the only one that's punishing seems to be Disney itself. Thousands upon thousands of Disney employees kicked to the curb - no parade for them I suppose
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol…. Ah… you choose to be selectively ignorant about why you and @tinman keep targeting Disney.

    Choosing concern trolling over the Disney employees when we all know what your real issue is.
     
  8. ROXRAN

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    We are also seeing 4000 jobs in the trash can - if we get to Jim Crow 3.0 does that mean 8000-16000 jobs will be eliminated?

    Not sure Disney can rationalize that kind of supposed progress
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Amazon is letting go an additional 9000 employees…. Must have been the wokism.
     
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  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol….. I guess the entire tech sector went too woke and is undergoing layoffs….

    Lololooloolol.
     
  11. IBTL

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    Must have been! ;)
     
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  12. IBTL

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    yeah ROXRAN is a ****ing moron in the D&D. great he owns a lawn care business, but he has a 10 cent brain when it comes to politics.
     
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  13. dmoneybangbang

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    The concern trolling shift among conservatives is amusing…. They know they can’t tell the truth so they lie
     
  14. ROXRAN

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    Come on now brah - talking Amazon - they have not exactly distanced themselves on some questionable business practices that may or may not be catered to woke ideology; in fact I can easily pull up instances in which they are more aligned with woke behavior -

    but I'm more concerned and unsettled about these 4000 jobs and the affected families involved- my heart goes out to each of these people and who knows how many more it may be double. We don't know after the end of the year that Disney will let them go.... imagine Disney is your dream job and right now you have zero certainty not because of who is the governor, but because of Disney itself being willing to punish its own employees by terminating them as a result of a failed approach - an approach that has proven an absolute disaster - my concerned heart goes out !
     
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    Or...now stick with me here...don't throw a racist hissyfit about character choices for a fictional cartoon/movie. If you really really give a s*** about what color Ariel is for the remake...the problem isn't with the casting.
     
  16. ROXRAN

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    That sounds like you are on the Board of Directors for Disney on being mad why people have not embraced your woke product -
    Let's pretend you are for a moment... if you read above, I made 3 simple suggestions on what you can do to keep your company afloat better to the point of NOT eliminating thousands upon thousands of jobs of valued employees ...1. Give up your foolery trying to re-organize original ideas - it doesn't work, and it has proven to be a failure over and over again - 2. Respect the original material if you use original material and then you will have success -that has been demonstrated.
    3. Produce diversity programming. I'm all for it as long as it respects the first two points I mentioned above.- if it's a story with great writing, and a meaningful plot and done intellectually- people across the spectrum will embrace it more likely

    as simple as this sounds, a woke ideology cannot do this for some reason
     
  17. StupidMoniker

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    I watched the first episode (or maybe it was the first two? up until Willow showed up). I might go back to it, it wasn't terrible, but not terribly compelling either. I didn't feel the need to get right back into it like Andor or Last of Us.
     
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  18. dmoneybangbang

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    Amazon had their own streaming service…cuts.

    How about HBO/WB? Lots of layoffs there too…. Was HBO too woke?!?!

    lololololol

    Nah…. I can only assume you are as dishonest as you are ugly.

    Where’s your sad songs for Microsoft employees? That’s what I thought…. Another conservative who has to lie over an anonymous forum….
     
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    America's addiction to small business owners has really made a lot of them overvalue their value and abilities.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    1. Does it make sense for Disney to spend billion acquiring a company like Marvel and then not use Spiderman, Captain America, Wolverine, etc? Seems like a terrible idea. As for re-organizing, you really should look at the history of Marvel comics, they have historically reorganized their own ideas countless times now.

    2. Why? There is no rule that you have to respect the original material. Do you think music artists shouldn't remix songs? Stories are told and retold and remixed. This is how it's been done since the dawn of time. Disney is doing nothing different and you know something? The best part about it is if you like the original Peter Pan so much then you can watch it! They aren't 'replacing' any stories, they are retelling them with a twist. As for Velma or any other media at the end of the day that's on the company and artists that work for the company. I don't care for Velma either but then again I'm not some scooby doo fan that would have cared either way.

    3. I just think the push back is more about the quality of the thing and less about whatever culture war topic is being thrown around. Star Trek is EXTREMELY progressive, TNG, DS9, you name it. There is little woke outrage over those shows because they were good shows. Star Trek Discovery...yeah there was some but then again, it's a mid show while Strange New Worlds is generally seen as much better and so no one really cares.

    While there's arguments to be made about pushing politics down the throat of your audience that's still up to the writer and the artists behind the show, book, movie, whatever. I just don't see it as some grand scheme...I think it's as simple as the fact that just like a lot of police officers tend to be conservative a lot of artists tend to be liberal and so their views oft times show in their work.
     

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