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  1. fchowd0311

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    How profitable is the persecution complex of white straight people?

    Don't trust people on LinkedIn trying to generate some clout by making sure right wing media gives them a clout bump by airing their "grevincies".
     
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  2. basso

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    I will always do my best, but when mistakes come at the expense of one's job, or reputation, then we are in fact being forced to comply.
     
  3. ElPigto

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    Would you mind elaborating?
     
  4. basso

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    on what.
     
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    No one is going to fire you if you accidentally misgender someone once or twice, unless it was done maliciously. Now, if you continue to do it after several reminders, it's most likely no longer an accident and yes, could cause you to lose your job.
     
  6. basso

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    forced.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    No it isn't forced. Start your own business and pull yourself from your own bootstraps and no one will force you. That's the part about being an employee, you get wages and you do as you are told. You don't want to do as you are told? Go start a company. It's an option available to you.
     
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    Welcome to the upside-down world that most conservatives live in. Basso is almost tame in comparison to some of the other lunatics on here.
     
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    Most of the cases we’d see in the workplace are less about discrimination as much as they are about poor customer service.

    If someone asks you as a customer to serve them in a way they find less offensive or embarrassing or whatever (whether that’s about sex, race, their weight, etc) most organizations train employees to show empathy, ask questions that help them understand how they can help, and work to find a resolution.

    When you forgo customer service expectations set by the organization… yeah you are going to deserve to lose your job. Your job isn’t going to force you to change your beliefs. They are mandating you to display basic customer service protocol.

    That’s what the Basso’s of the world can’t seem to understand. People are going to be weird and have weird requests. If you want to be in business in America, you gotta be willing to accommodate people you don’t align with on every single lifestyle and political issue.

    Discriminatory issues are really only there for business owners or monopolies that feel entitled to have customers serve them way more than they serve their customers. In those cases it’s real freaking hard to feel sympathy if law enforcement or the courts force their hand to not be a dick.
     
  11. basso

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    I'm in sales- I will call anyone anything they want to be called if it helps to close a deal.

    I'm talking about internal politics.
     
  12. Xerobull

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  13. fchowd0311

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    You being in sales is so perfect. It's exactly the perfect profession for a "classical liberal". The profession itself is a useless profession that only exists because of our economic system that exploits but provides no meaningful value to society.
     
  14. ElPigto

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    I only quoted the part I wanted you to elaborate on. I don't follow.
     
  15. dobro1229

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    Im in sales too with a professional services firm. A lot more people are in sales that aren’t the typical caricature of a sleezy used car salesperson.

    So id respectfully disagree, but there are certain commoditized industries where they’re an unnecessary pass through called sales. Even if that’s the case though, there’s almost always a need for a relationship between customer and vender. The process of listening to their needs, and advocating for the best solution is important.

    That’s why the right wing thought process on discrimination is so bizarre to me. In the professional world it just doesn’t happen that way. Both sides want something from each other and you meet in the middle for a win win. If one side has such a huge leg up on the other that they literally can discriminate, then it’s really more of a product of our economic system failing than anything.

    It’s a big reason why you probably only see discrimination happening in places like small town bakeries. They have little drive to grow their business or else they wouldn’t be there and likely are the only baker in town so they can monopolize at a micro level. Usually you don’t even need discrimination laws because the free market figures them out eventually which is why even in small towns with micro monopolies, you see businesses failed left and right.

    Point being… sales, or customer service or consultive business relationships matter imo. People need to stop getting worked up about one off discrimination cases or laws. Nobody is forcing you to do anything you probably weren’t already doing unless your goal is to wildly unsuccessful in the professional world.
     
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    Posting all day everyday on Clutchfans.net is providing a lot more value to society.
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    Neither are my mechanical cad designs for interchangable mechanical hoppers for industrial food packaging machines for the company I work. Most of us aren't providing value to society especially sales people.

    We all live lives of hypocrisy. My company Spurs out multiple industrial size waste bins of plastic containers everytime we test our machines before shipping them to clients.
     
  18. basso

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    the statement seems pretty clear; unclear what sort of elaboration you're looking for.
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Look at the video games industry as a case study of why people hate sales. And when I mean "sales" I mean MBAs with no passion for software development or gaming take over the industry and turn every game into a live service or loot box gambling addiction. In the early 2000s and 90s, the gaming industry was owned by the actual development talent. As those companies grew, MBAs took over the the management and the development talent just started following orders.

    The perception is that MBAs come into an industry and eliminate the creative passion of said industry.
     
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    The hypocrisy is the worst part.
     
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