By the way, not only is this Green's 5th 40+ point game, it's his 20th 30+ point game. Not too shabby.
Also he's got most of the season next year while being still 21. Good chance he finishes top 5 all time in 40 pt games before turning 22.
We need an unselfish, well-respected PG next to Jalen otherwise many of these nights are gonna go to waste. Great scoring game, but was disappointed to see the team had only 15 assists to 12 TO's. Next season if the coaching staff can't get through to our PG, then Jalen has to put his foot down.
Thats weird that he's on this list because a certain poster on here keeps saying that Jalen is one of the worst starters in the NBA.
Not saying he should have more 40+ games under a proper coach/pg, but it's not too farfetched to believe so. Future is extremely bright for this young man
You watched tonight and thought the PG was the problem? And you defend this by quoting total team assists/turnovers? Fascinating.
I think he'd probably have more 30+ games with proper coach/pg which is probably the sweet spot for him. I don't know how people have convinced themselves that a guy could be the leader in 40pt games among his generation and that his inefficiency at the age of 21 is somewhat hopeless. Soap opera-level drama being so "sad" about the holes in Jalen's game. Right now he doesn't have the strength and stamina for the thing he needs to be doing more. Look at guys like Jordan and Kobe, getting bulked up was a big part of both of their games. I keep telling you to STOP comparing him 25/8/8 guys who run the entire offense like Harden or Lebron, that's not his game. Green's game is old school traditional shooting guard: attack the rim, punish with jumpers, first to get back/front in transition, needs to be able to trust the PG to be reliable (Fisher, Kerr, Harper, etc). He's more in the mould of MJ/Kobe, what we will end up with if all goes well is a highly volatile 30ppg on good efficiency to go with good defense. 30 points, 5 assists, defensive effort. He needs to get to the line 8+ times next season and get better at finishing through contact, and that requires strength and stamina. He'll get there. Pump this kid with some HGH man, that stuff is harmless in tiny doses. Right now there are so many defensive and offensive possessions (I estimate 10-15%) where he is just overpowered by someone and he's not doing anything tactically wrong. I think we're going to recapture those possessions once he puts on some muscle. Will improve his defense (as well as his ability to guard 2/3's) and finishing at the rim.
No you're reading that incorrectly. The entire team didn't share the ball well (including the PG), and I blame that on the designated leader of the offense on the court.
Our two bigs shooting 5 for 18 from the field and 0 for 6 from 3, while their counterparts went 18-36 and 2-4 respectively sure doesn’t bring about wins. KPJ has plenty of flaws, and I love Sengun and Smith. I am happy to praise or criticize any of the above … but pointing at the backcourt for this game is just ridiculous and shows dogma over objectivity.
I don't think it's ridiculous as obviously the back court is a score first back court. It has gotten better but it's a Silas coached team where everyone has the green light to fire away, the leading guards have the greenest of lights. I don't see that changing anytime soon, yes Jalen and Kevin did honor Jabari by giving him some of the shots the last games. But for how long could they sustain that?
Don't you know? He gets lucky in those games and then goes back to sucking duhhh Every good game he has is luck and his true play shines through every other game. This is ofcourse based on the endless wisdom of the green hate club.
His shot is still really streaky and he struggles with shot quality sometimes. So I think it's best for him and the team if his first option to start the game is to simply focus on using his quickness to blow by the primary defender and make him respect and fear the drive. In addition, making sure the bigs aren't in the paint so that it's harder for the help defense to get to him in time. That's also why Sengun needs to improve his 3 point shot. He should also be looking for open teammates if the help defense over commits. Once he makes a few blow by layups/floaters, his primary defender will naturally start giving him a little more space. This will give him easier, less contested jump shots. Which means higher FG% and more consistency overall.
Yes. He definitely should be racking up more assists with how much additional defenders commit to Green. Definitely one of the most important aspects he needs to work on. I noticed he's really bad at finding corner shooters which are open on so many of his drives.
Devin Booker, Zion Williamson, Kevin Durant, Lebron James and Luka Doncic are the only players with more 30pt games before the age of 21. Carmelo Anthony, Kyrie Irving and Anthony Edwards have fewer. Banchero won't get there. It's so much harder to break ceilings than to improve efficiency. Some people don't understand that. The only thing in Jalen's way of being a 30ppg scorer is some improved shot selection, 5% polish on his game and muscle. Those are all easily achievable for a 21 year old. If he's getting back to giving effort 100% of the time on defense, the revolution will grow again. It's a game changer for our/his net differential if he becomes a passable defender. That means his points will start turning into wins which is the next step for him.
Credit where it's due, Jalen had one of his best games ever last night. He just needs to focus on consistency, on any given night he could be the best player on the court or the worst.
The front court shot like crap and allowed the opposing front court to shoot well. Meanwhile the back court scored well with good efficiency and a good A/TO ratio. This isn't hard for anyone with an objective eye. Does that mean the front court is always to blame? Of course not. Everyone has good and bad games. But if you cannot give credit after a good game or criticize after a bad game, that says far more about you than about the team.
No it's not, the frontcourt and the backcourt can both suck. We are 29th offense and 29th defense, anything is possible. I don't get why we can't have a game where the backcourt and front court played bad and we blame the leader(s) of the offense on the court. If CP3 was our PG and we had 15 assists with this roster, we would be trying to get that number up right? If we had Draymond Green and were running the offense through him and the team ended up worth 15 assists to 2 TO's wouldn't we give him the feedback to improve that for next game and wouldn't he do it by leading by example and yelling at anyone who is not following instructions and guiding players to their spots and all that usual stuff PG's do? We need that. The person we've entrusted with doing that didn't do it and our coach didn't force it. What I want to see is the team not being in limbo like that, I want a leader to come and take the reins and wake the team up and get the energy up on offense. That's dogma?
Yes. It is. The backcourt was good this game. The frontcourt was bad. You can keep trying to reset to a season-wide conversation, but you started the conversation talking about this game. “the person we’ve entrusted with doing it” has played very well the past few weeks, including the last game. If you don’t see that and force season-long narratives and attributing all responsibility to him … again, that says more about you than anyone else.
