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What it means to be “woke”

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. larsv8

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    Hey Salvy, I am still waiting for you answer what you think woke is?

    I have a real concern you actually have no idea and are just parroting what the TV says. It would be unfair for me think of you as a mindless lemming without giving you an opportunity to explain your position.
     
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  2. Salvy

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    I think Woke is the mindset of going against any traditional idea despite morality, religion and or reality. Wokeness is to challenge anything and everything that we have come to know as normal. There are no limits to wokeness despite how absurd the challenge may be, as long a challenge is happening towards a know fact or past occurrence. I think people adopt The Woke mentality because it gives them something to fight for despite how stupid it is. They can feel good about fighting daily battles against things that don't really exist in this country and have not for 100's of years. Woke people don't really care what they are triggered about, as long as they are challenging something normal. This is why everyday we see more and more absurd things from the woke movement. Its never ending, just a cycle of delusion.
     
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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Except what is considered “normal”? It wasn’t that long ago that dating and marrying outside your race wasn’t considered normal and there were laws against it. Less than a decade ago gay marriage wasn’t considered normal and it’s still not accepted by many but it’s considered less and less controversial.
     
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  4. Salvy

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    There is a big difference between a natural progression of acceptance towards things that are unfamiliar vs the unnatural and forced progression of anything some emotional unstable people feel should be widely accepted just because they felt offended. Society has come a long way, we will continue to adapt and be better but lets not confuse wokeness with progression. There is no need to change every single thing for as humans we have made mistakes but we have also learned from them and from those lessons we have also gathered great knowledge of things that are still around today. Things that still work and will always work. To eliminate or change things just simply because is to go in reverse.
     
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    If more people could be like you this world would be so much better off. It’s refreshing to see someone talk sense ..no cap
     
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  6. Salvy

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    Thanks, likewise.. Its sad to see so many people fall for the woke lie that is then fueled by corrupt politicians in order to divide the country with the sole purpose of destroying their opponent.
     
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  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Basically woke = change.

    Makes sense in a way. Civil Rights movement would be called woke today. Women rights = woke. It ties into the familiar conservative construct of keeping power structures intact and anything that's a threat to that needs to be attacked. In this case they attack it with the word woke. He actually gave a very enlightening definition as it gives incredible insight into how they think and what their underlying fears are.
     
  8. larsv8

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    Hmm, okay.

    So when you said this:

    Its woke, because challenges religion and you consider homosexuality to be immoral?

    That is so weird, by your own definition, the Bible is woke. It might be time for some counseling. You are letting this consume you.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Except there were people who said that marrying someone outside your race was unnatural also. There are still people who say the same thing about gay marriages or being gay in general.
     
  10. Salvy

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    I said it was woke because the woke movement is anti religion and especially Christianity. Its been around for centuries so yup its time to change it up. I said it was woke because they keep trying to push homosexuality in every single bit of content produced challenging the norm of a man generally and typically having a relationship with a women. This is their originality, why write a traditional love story between male and female when they can be woke and push their ideologies while implementing the most obvious and unoriginal trend in Hollywood. The gay character. Is it not mockery to take a small group of people and all of sudden implement them in everything to push their agendas. They are in many ways exploiting homosexuality, not representing it.
     
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  11. Salvy

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    So the best course of action is to inject as much gay content into every bit of media? That does not work, if anything it does the opposite. People will reject things that are being forced upon them. This is why the woke movement has failed to make a single stride into the way people see homosexuality.
     
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    Woke is calling this a girls basketball team
    When there’s a dude on the team
     
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  13. larsv8

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    lol my guy.

    Wokeism is "the attitudes of people who draw attention social and political injustice". Like hey man, maybe we should look at why black people keep getting gunned down by police?

    I am not quite sure why you have so much internal dialogue about homosexuality and religion, but you REALLY need to talk with some one about that.
     
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    I admit I don’t watch as much media as many others do and it’s hard to keep up with so much but doesn’t seem like it’s non stop gay content. I just finished The Last of Us and while there are gay characters it’s not like everyone is gay and there are heterosexual characters too.

    Also most polling shows that homosexuality including gay marriage is far more acceptable now than even ten years ago when it was legalized. It appears then that the “woke” movement is actually making it more acceptable. That is off you define the “woke movement” as the entertainment industry putting in more diverse characters because I’m not fully sure what qualifies as the “woke movement”.
     
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    Nobody is forcing anything on you. No one holds a gun to your head and watch anything. People are free to create whatever stories they want. It's their story to tell or make up however they want.

    What's woke is to tell people that they can't make or do what they want because it offends their traditional values.
     
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    It's okay buddy. You'll be alright. Did daddy not show you enough love? A priest or Boy Scout leader show you too much?
     
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    You REALLY need to look out for those Scout Leaders. A plethora of sexual abuse documentation between Scout Leaders and the the children in their respective Scout troop.
     
  19. ROXRAN

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    I don't get it - your comment at the end is frankly disgusting-@Salvy is explaining his perspective in a very respectful and rational manner and all I see you, fchow, and larves attempts to insult and denigrate him? I get it that you may be frustrated that woke ideology is not embraced but when people see complete nonsense and then see content not based on reality then, of course, a large segment of the population is not going to embrace it especially when it's politically driven and an obvious agenda ... Personally I have no problem with film that wants to include representation of 14% of the US population- they should - but give it a fair shake based on reality- into the spider verse for example portrayed a black Spider-Man but it wasn't meant to replace the original because it at least knowledged the Spider-Man we all grew up with as source material- it showed a black police officer in a positive light, .. it showed a black man being a villain and failing at life and failing his family - as well as a young Spider-Man, ultimately making the right choice having both parents ~ if every supposed woke show followed this formula I don't think anyone would have a problem with it. There are elements of reality where all races can rise and fail ...

    But it's when you change for no good reason, then to bring a different version then it's simply sloppy and lazy to begin with - I'm all about progress. I'm all about improving ourselves as a society which we have pretty much done and it takes different perspectives I agree. Diversity is a good thing but it doesn't need to check all the boxes it needs to be based on whether it makes sense and does it acknowledge some construct of reality
     
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    You REALLY need to look out for those Scout Leaders. A plethora of sexual abuse documentation between Scout Leaders and the the children in the Scout troop.
    Why is your news feed bubble concentrated on useless stories like this and not relevant stores like cartels forming for essential services like rent prices?
     

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