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Trump Grifts, Loans, and Investigations

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Aug 22, 2020.

  1. astros123

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    Trump truth-ing The Truth ...

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    For those keeping track at home, this is about the mishandling of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago and the subsequent Obstruction of Justice.

     
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  4. deb4rockets

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    Rattled as usual. He's so unhinged. I wonder if he's throwing ketchup at the walls again.
     
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    Does taking down Trump also help take down the mob?


    I'm still not convinced they're not one in the same...
     
  6. Xerobull

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    Well, no. It’s a legit cult, complete with brainwashing and mind programming. That doesn’t go away overnight.
     
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    There's a difference between the mob of white collar criminals Trump is involved with than the brainwashed Trump cult he would never really associate with in real life. He uses them both for making money though.
     
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    He should be indicted on every crime of which there is sufficient evidence to bring about a conviction.
     
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    In terms of illegal use of campaign funds to arrest a former president.... That is bad because I'm sure most previous presidents have probably broken similar levels of laws like this.

    If a former president gets arrested it better be for something important like trying to strong arm a state's vote counting systems to change vote totals such as threatening a state's secretary of state with a political hit job if they didn't find a few thousand votes out of nowhere.
     
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    I know some of these white collar devotees and there's absolutely an element of fanaticism there too.
     
  11. deb4rockets

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    The biggest difference between white collar criminals and street thugs is that white collar criminals steal a hell of a lot more money, and get arrested far less often. Crooks are crooks, and the biggest crooks are the types that Trump loves to associate with. Peas in a pod.
     
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    trump should be sitting in prison right now for inciting the january 6th insurrection and also for pressuring the georgia secretary of state to "find" enough votes to overturn the election. the stormy daniels thing seems like the least egregious of the three things he is being investigated for.
     
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    It shouldn’t matter if Trump is finally indicted over Stormy Daniel’s. The severity of the case can be addressed over punishment.

    The key is whether we tolerate a two tier system of justice. Michael Cohen already went to jail over this so this isn’t just some meaningless crime.
     
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    Trump just does what everyone else does. Stop picking on the man. We all know white-collar crimes aren't real crimes.
     
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    Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered that the jurors in the case will be anonymous. The judge did so, not on the request of either party, but sua sponte (the court’s own motion). The judge acknowledged that such treatment was unusual and “most often” reserved for “terrorism and organized crime cases.”

    However, the judge cited Trump’s long history of attempting to intimidate courts, witnesses, and even individual jurors as justifying this unusual step.

    “it bears mention that Mr. Trump repeatedly has attacked courts, judges, various law enforcement officials and other public officials, and even individual jurors in other matters.”

    A very lengthy footnote, filling most of a page provides examples of that. Footnote 7 on page 4 is definitely worth a read.

    Another example cited by the court is Trump’s reaction in the last week to reports that Alvin Bragg’s grand jury in Manhattan is about to indict Trump. The judge noted his court is next door to Bragg’s.

    “Mr. Trump’s quite recent reaction to what he perceived as an imminent threat of indictment by a grand jury sitting virtually next door to this Court was to encourage ‘protest’ and to urge people to ‘take our country back.’ That reaction reportedly has been perceived by some as incitement to violence.”

    The court continues.

    “In these circumstances, this Court is obliged to consider the likely effect on jurors of the matters just described, similar events in the relatively recent past, and the likely future course of events, including the inevitable extensive media coverage. And it cannot properly ignore the significant risk that jurors selected to serve in this case will be affected by concern that they could be targeted for unwanted media attention, outside pressure, and retaliation and harassment from persons unhappy with any verdict that might be returned.”

    The motion was not objected to by either party, though news organizations did citing the customary approach of open courts. In rejecting the medias concerns the judge made clear that Trump history of “violent rhetoric” outweighed even the Constitutional concerns raised by the media:

    “Mr. Trump himself has made critical statements on social media regarding the grand jury foreperson in Atlanta, Georgia, and the jury foreperson in the Roger Stone criminal case. And this properly may be viewed in the context of Mr. Trump’s many statements regarding individual judges, the judiciary in general, and other public officials, as well as what reports have characterized as ‘violent rhetoric’ by Mr. Trump including before his presidency. In these circumstances, the common law and constitutional arguments made by the News and the AP are unpersuasive.”

    This is what a judge is compelled to for a civil trial of a former President of the United States. The trial is scheduled for April 25th.
     
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    What should matter more is his coup attempt. He should already have been locked up. What should matter is all the other criminal activity he has his dirty little hands in. I can't even keep count anymore of all the felons he associates with, or has made money with at some point. Everything and everyone in his circle is corrupt, untrustworthy part of his mob.
     
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    I can’t read all caps. Not only does it hurt my eyes but he’s de-emphasizing all words but making them all equal. Why would anyone want this guy as their “leader” is completely baffling to me. He’s not normal.
     
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    Maybe his Jan 6 Insurrectionists are his wmd and he's waving it around like Kim to dissuade actions that would lead to further political unrest.

    There's always a reason behind his madness, beyond the initial petty narcisism.
     
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    It's all about power for him, at all cost. It's never really about justice or Americans. Why do you think he loves the types like Kim and Putin? He idolizes them and they love it. He's putty in their hands.
     

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