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is kenyon martin jr bad @ defense ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by eurobasket23, Mar 18, 2023.

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he is good or bad defender

  1. good

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  2. bad

    19 vote(s)
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  1. eurobasket23

    eurobasket23 Member

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    i like him , but when he is on the floor we give open 3pts much, he is the best cutter for sengun , but tari eason can start instead of him bc on defense tari & bari can help sengun ,jalen & head hancho
     
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    upload_2023-3-18_8-38-28.png

    Also, his defensive RAPTOR rating is -2.9.

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  3. maj21

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    He’s a solid help defender at times, but he’s not very good on that end. He makes up for a lil with his hustle and effort
     
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  4. eurobasket23

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    him end sengun need to fix their defense in this summer , they are good at offense but defense is the key...
     
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  5. rocketchamp

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    If KMJ is bad at defense, how bad is Sengun? Jonas Valanciunas looked like Hakeem last night. Why are we selectively picking & choosing when 2 focus on defense?
     
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    122 - Green
    121 - Washington
    120 - Martin
    120 - Nix
    120 - Tate
    120 - Christopher
    119 - Porter
    118 - Smith
    116 - Sengun
    114 - Eason
    114 - Garuba

    2023 Rockets
     
  7. eurobasket23

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    you see i said "they need to fix their defense in summer"
    fck your eyes if they cant see it
     
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    Well then it’s pretty impressive that Sengun was able to win his minutes on the court against Hakeem
     
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  10. DrNuegebauer

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    The only reason Lin didn't make it in the NBA was because others felt threatened by him.
     
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    Tari was clearly better than him, both in terms of defense and 3 point shooting. I think they gave him the starting spot just to placate his dad. I like him, but he really needs to work on his shooting.
     
  12. eurobasket23

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    or mybe FO wants to increase his trade value
     
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    nut sure what you talking about...Sengun will be elite defender once he is playing for the real team and gets the real playing time in a real defensive system...bear in mind he only played 12 full basketball games so far in his career(35 minutes) and the rhythm and timing(as well as the role and the system youre in!) is crucial for playing excellent defense...
    you cant get into the rhythm and flow by reading newspapers on the bench or play elite defense when other 4 guys are slacking and dont care

    the guy is literally punished for playing good and is working in a hostile environment...nobody has an unlimited energy to spend, you give your best in certain areas so that you can avoid injury and still win that max contract and work on the finesses later
     
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    KJM is bad at defense but in a way that has a path to improvement.

    He’s got the size and athleticism to be a good defender, and you can tell he’s got good spatial awareness from his offensive feel for cutting and spacing. He just doesn’t play with intensity or solidity on defense, he’s just sort of there.

    I think he’s just been focused on his next contract, and that means putting up numbers on offense. I think the veteran version of KJM will be a solid defender.
     
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    It's interesting. Watching him he doesn't seem that bad, but I think the reality is a little different. He should be better.
     
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  17. groovemachine

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    He and Sengun are both mediocre defenders, KMJ should probably come off the bench next year.
     
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    Better than Green and KPJ.
     
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    Better than Green. Not better than KPj
     
  20. invocux

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    KPJ is almost as bad as Green
     

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