Took two Russians pilots to down a remote-controlled drone. j/k aside for something potentially very serious, why would any pilot intentionally hit a drone and risk their own plane? Looks like incompetence, but that's been par for the course of this whole Russian invasion.
"The aircraft then hit the propeller of the drone, prompting US forces to bring the MQ-9 drone down in international waters." seems really dangerous and a questionable report.
dumping fuel on, and interfering with the drone is BAU. hitting it feels like sloppy flying from the Russians.
yea, the fuel dumping is bad but the hit does seem to be an accident... Russian ace pilots can't even do a flyby right
Why is this considered "sloppy" or "incompetent" by the Russians? The U.S. drone went down and the Russian planes were fine... seems like the Russians effectuated their desire just fine to me.
Mr. DeSantis has declared that the continued support of the united States for Ukraine as it defends itself against Russia is not a "vital" national interest. It seems that a host of influential Republicans, not to mention the Democratic administration, along with a majority of Democrats in Congress, very much disagree with the fellow. More below: GOP senators push back on Ron DeSantis over Ukraine BY CAITLIN YILEK, ALAN HE, JACK TURMAN MARCH 14, 2023 / 8:41 PM / CBS NEWS Washington — Republican senators on Wednesday pushed back on comments made by Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida declaring that the United States' continued support for Ukraine as it defends itself against Russia is not a "vital" national interest. "It's a misunderstanding of the situation," Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters on Capitol Hill on Tuesday. "This is not a territorial conflict, it's a war of aggression." "To say it doesn't matter is to say war crimes don't matter," Graham added. DeSantis, who is widely expected to run for president in 2024, made the comments on Monday in response to a questionnaire from Fox News host Tucker Carlson. Carlson sent out questionnaires to potential Republican presidential candidates about the war in Ukraine. "While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Community Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them," DeSantis' statement said. Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina said he disagreed with DeSantis. "I think that we have to look bigger than just a conflict in Ukraine," Tillis said. "There's a humanitarian crisis. There are war crimes being committed." Sen. John Thune of South Dakota said he also had a "different view" than DeSantis. "I would argue, and I think the majority of people in this country recognize how important it is, that Ukraine repel Russia," Thune said. Sen. John Kennedy of Louisiana said he hadn't seen DeSantis' remarks, but declared, "We need to stop Putin." Sen. Mike Rounds of South Dakota said the perspective was a "concern," but added that access to classified briefings could change things. "There's going to be an educational process," he said. "Any one of the individuals who has an interest in working as the next president of the United States really needs to get a full briefing before they decide to make up their minds on this particular issue." DeSantis' stance aligns him with former President Donald Trump and puts him at odds with other top Republicans, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who has said he is supportive of continued military and financial aid to Ukraine. When asked if the governor's viewpoint could become a dominant narrative with Republican presidential candidates, Tillis said, "It could be, and it's not one that I'm buying." Aaron Navarro contributed to this report. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/desantis-ukraine-support-gop-pushes-back/
While I'm totally against Russia's aggression against Ukraine, I have to say, I wouldn't be happy if someone was 25 miles out spying on positions and feeding them to the enemy. I see why the bumped it out of the sky.
The Russian fighter plane is larger and more powerful than the drone. It’s like if an SUV kept on trying cut off a Civic on the highway and then sideswiped the civic. Chances are the SUV will still be largely drivable while Civic will crash.
It’s interesting to note how DeSantis and others say that the PRC is a concern but not Ukraine. The PRC is clearly interested in Ukraine otherwise they wouldn’t be backing Russia in it.
Interesting, the one caveat is that its tucker and fox asking and that's what the base wants to hear, so not sure if he`s pandering or if that's how he feels. For gop members who say this is a territorial dispute, they are burying their head in the sand. If Desantis does win and starts touting this stance, how long is it before graham and the like change their tune and start agreeing with him?
I don't trust any of these ****ers. You have to do a deep dive on each statement to glean the real meaning behind everything they say. They give zero ****s about the humanitarian crisis It's clear that DeSantis is supporting the nationalist narrative They may care a little bit about fighting Russia, mostly because of lingering cold war biases There is a clear military-industrial complex motive behind some of the GOP talking points. There is massive, massive money to be made on military expenditures There are massive energy sector gains to be had in Ukraine if the West wins
DeSantis is simply calculating that he needs to take that stand to have any chance of beating Trump. There is also the added bonus that Putin is listening, and both Trump and DeSantis would welcome Putin's election interference. Flip-flop: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/politics/ron-desantis-supported-ukraine-russia-kfile/index.html As a conservative congressman, DeSantis, now a potential presidential hopeful, urged sending “defensive and offensive” weapons to Ukraine in 2014 and 2015 and even voted to refuse to fund a new missile defense treaty with Russia until they withdrew from Ukraine, according to a review of DeSantis’ past comments by CNN’s KFile. “We in the Congress have been urging the president, I’ve been, to provide arms to Ukraine. They want to fight their good fight. They’re not asking us to fight it for them. And the president has steadfastly refused. And I think that that’s a mistake,” said DeSantis. “I think that when someone like [Russian President Vladimir] Putin sees Obama being indecisive, I think that whets his appetite to create more trouble in the area. And I think if we were to arm the Ukrainians, I think that would send a strong signal to him that he shouldn’t be going any further,” he added. “They viewed guys like me who are – who are more of the Reagan school that’s tough on Russia as kind of throwbacks to the Cold War.”
There isn’t. I’m referring to the GOP who are speaking out in favor for the war in Ukraine/against DeSantis.
People are over reacting. We've had ships blown up before without us entering a war. We've had way crazier encounters than this. When a surface to air missle landed in Poland a few months ago and the way biden reacted showed alot. While zelensky was trying invoke article 5, Biden quickly de escalated and said he's not making no comment. I don't think there's any universe biden sends us troops ever to fight Russia. Biden is really traumatized by his sons death and thinks he died cuz of the Iraq war.
