Projected stat lines of our young core players with proper coaching and after getting rid of KPJ

I can't say for sure how successful the pairing of sengun and Harden will b, but Harden is way too talented and gifted at playmaking to care that much about a center skillset, man is able to adapt with what's he's given.

I'm more worried about the two pairing on defense more than offense.

 

I agree, just saying I would personally prefer a mobile C with Harden vs the much slower and grounded Sengun. Senguns offensive skills are really only a factor if he is the focal point of an offensive system.

 

Any time these types of threads pop up I like to plug in the numbers to stat head to see just how rare/realistic some stat line predictions are.

Punched in the Sengun numbers first to see how many times in NBA history someone averaged 22/7/11/1.5/1.5 and it came back with zero. Never happened.

 

Not really. Harden dribbles the ball and see the mismatch between sengun, passes it to him and sengun will score with his post game or uses his passing/play making ability to find the open man or just pass it back to harden.

It's not that complicated. A passing savy big man that can score via post game is a boon and can yield great success if u have a competent pg. It would b even better if sengun can develop range.

 

I disagree, Sengun takes away Hardens ability to disguise his floater as a lob since everyone knows Sengun can’t rise up for it. That lob/floater dual threat has become one of his most devastating weapons out of the PnR.

 

But Alpi is special!

 

What do you know, I agree with your bum ass about something

 

I'm not too well verse with Harden playstyle nowadays since I don't watch him but I'm pretty sure harden is skilled enough to pass the ball to a man in the PnR without it having to b a lob.

I view it like this if sengun post game can b as consistent as a dunk or lob to a big man in a mismatch out of a PnR why would it matter? Folks are too dead set on thinking that lob centers are better than centers who Excel at the post game.


The post game is so dead that folks b thinking a center that can catch lob is better than a center who can finesse his way via the post game to score.

I view centers that have post game/passing ability basically a shot creator center. That's quite more valuable than lob threats if u ask me

 

I don't think a lob center is better than a post center ie Capela vs Embiid/Jokic. I do think that a lob center who use good at interior defense though is much better than a post center who is weak at defense for a guard that primarily runs PnR.

 

id say most all possible....
but im expecting us to add at least 2 substantial pieces... a pg (scoot or fa) and another fc player (Wem or fa) - with kpj to 6th (or someone else)... and they're gonna take up some touches...
so once u layer those pieces on... i see a lil less production across the board... which is fine if we r getting balanced consistent performance... id love like hell to be the next 'Pistons championship' type team without a couple 'cornerstones' and then 'roleplayers'... lol

 

I think the important thing is Sengun is a high percentage finisher around the rim with good court vision and passing skills. That is a deadly combination. Harden may not be able to disguise his floater as a lob but the benefit from passing the ball to sengun will be more than a lob because you can do it more often and it will result in a multiple threat. Sengun will naturally finish at a lower percentage than a lob but the extra passing opportunities combined with his finishing and foul drawing rate will be much better in my opinion. And that's why Sengun doesn't need to be the focal point of offense, he needs to touch the ball and a moving offense. How this will balance with the defensive downside compared to the types of Capela, that I don't know yet and heavily depends on how much he will improve on that side.

 

Assist is still too high.
Pts might b still quite high. A 5 pts jump from 14.8 to 20 in a season, it's rare.

If we did get harden back. To me this would b more realistic. Harden would raise everybody's scoring ability

Jalen ~24-25 pts (main scorer)

Harden ~ 20-21 pts

Smith~16-18 pts

Sengun~ 17-18 pts

KJM~ 14-15 pts

I cannot see Sengun averaging that many assists a game unless he was made the main focal point, which is a ridiculous idea when u have harden play making. Sure he can get 7 assist in a game or so, but to average that while having someone like harden is quite insane.

 

Sengun is a 20 and 10 guy next year, because he can get points on post ups and rebounds. He is a top offense rebounder and he needs to work on his outside shot. If Sabonis plays average defense, Sengun can play average defense next year as well.

 

I see 7 assists more likely than 22 pts a game. 5 to 6 assists should be almost automatic. 18 pts/6 assists as baseline, with extra points or assists depending on play style. Harden's gravity should open up something for Sengun, Sengun averaged those numbers without a decent pg.

This thread made me realize this team would be very good immediately with a very good point guard.

 

I think it's considerably more likely they get rid of Sengun than KPJ.

KPJ is one of the team's best shooters and he's made a lot of strides as a facilitator and creator.

As to Sengun, it's obvious they view him as a serious liability defensively and if they want to play 5 out offensively they can't play to his strengths and kind of can't even have him on the court.

There's no question if they get Wemby he's gone, but honestly if they get Henderson, they probably move KPJ to the 3 and start Tari and Bari at the 4 and 5. Sengun probably still gets moved.

I'm not saying that's necessarily what I want, I just think it's what is likely.

 

People who have convinced themselves that all the teams problems stem from Silas and KPJ are going to be in for a huge letdown when those two are gone and very little changes.

There is this fantasy that Sengun is a franchise player who is destined to be built around and only KPJ and Silas are standing in the way.

KPJ was out for month and the team, headed by Sengun, had the worst performing stretch of the season.

Meanwhile, Sengun sits, and we then have our best performance of the season.

Can't wait for yet another round of crying from people who frankly can't seem to be objective and appropriately manage their expectations.