Alot of you don't know **** about rookie stat lines and have short memories about player evolutions. Just ignorant non basketball watching noise
I understand what you are saying. It isn't very clear that it is your wish when you say "all he has to become" - that communicates a sense of minimum expectation (which is why I made a joke about it originally)
I think that Jabari and to an extent Green are quite robotic as players. These types of player typically lacks a lot of creativity in their play. For them to be successful they need to have really solid fundamentals or be insanely physically gifted. Sheed is more like a "baller" type of player who can mess around on the court, he's not scared to play creatively to find baskets. I feel like Sengun in this category. That's why it's even more important for Jabari to sharpen his shooting, his foot work and finishing.
And then back to back post. Got some explaining to do cause I'm friends with one and not the other one.
And then back to back post. Got some explaining to do cause I'm friends with one and not the other one.
I've never heard the term "robotic" when it comes to Green. He's considered extremely fluid, and able to squeeze through right spaces like a cat through the bottom crack of a door. That's a odd take. You'll never see Jabari doing things like splitting doubles or doing spin dribble moves in traffic which Green can do. Do you watch the games? I mean someone who doesn't have creativity isn't going to score 60-70% off their makes off the dribble which Green does. Jabari does like 25% so ya it shows statistically and eye test that he is a more robotic player and it's one of the negatives in his scouting report in his draft profile.
I've never heard the term "robotic" when it comes to Green. He's considered extremely fluid, and able to squeeze through right spaces like a cat through the bottom crack of a door. That's a odd take. You'll never see Jabari doing things like splitting doubles or doing spin dribble moves in traffic which Green can do. Here is his draft profile of Green that shows exactly the opposite of what you claim Green to be. Calling him robotic is absolutely absurd.
His voice is pretty robotic to me, didn't sense any emotions in it. Also diction problems. I don't think robot is bad, Yao and Duncan perfected the robot style, worked times and times again. He is fast and at times fluid for sure.
It's not about fluidity or squeezing through space, it's about how you mentally approach the game. You can still be robotic and still be a great player, Kawhi would be a prime example and to an extent Giannis. Green and Jabari both seems to be the type of player that would drill certain moves over and over again, and when they go to a game, they just do those move without even considering anything else around them. It's not really a bad thing, Giannis does the same eurostep into the lane 15 times a game, and nobody can stop him. Kawhi might do the same 2 dribble into the elbow jumper 5 times in a row and you can't do anything to stop it. Other players a lot more playful, and they don't really have their mind set when they make their moves and almost read and react to everything. You see that with Curry, Jokic, Kyrie etc.
He is right that Jabari is more robotic, the jury is out on Jalen, he has got something to prove in his third year.
No that definitely isn't Jalen. And yes it's definitely about fluidity and getting into tight spaces with creativity like being able to split doubles. That's exactly what "creativity" is. Jalen Green has really fast coordinated foot speed. That isn't robotic. It's literally the last thing you can describe Jalen's Green as. It's chaotic, which is the inverse. Jabari is exactly what you are describing. He has very coaching drill post moves that are robotic. "Understanding the game" is a very broad term and because someone is careless or isn't readily reading defenses as well as someone else's doesn't mean they aren't creative. Again, Jalen Green scores 60+% of his makes unassisted and still is a more efficient scorer than Jabari who scores 25% of his makes unassisted. You have to be creative to score that much through your own self creation.
The jury is still out on whether Green becomes a consistent player. But not in regards to being robotic. That's like the first time I've ever heard that term describe Green. It's a least odd description of his game.
I think the poster apollo meant robotic approach to the game but I am no insider. I care about the season record.
I do mean his mentality or approach to the game. For example on certain plays it's like he already had his mind made up he's going to do a certain move, he's going to do it regardless of what the defense gives him or where his team mates are. He's definitely getting better at watching and adjusting. For example that shovel pass he has been working on to Sengun, it's obvious all he's been drilling this season and he's good at it. But he will make the same pass over and over again and will not even think about other passes that's available. I think that's also the reason why he attempts really tough layups and they don't even come close to going in, because when he beat the first defender, his mind is already made up that he will attempt a layup.
