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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. Astrodome

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    I don't solely blame the fentanyl epidemic on Biden because this drug is gaining popularity every year. When the GOP takes over next cycle it will be interesting if they can secure the border enough to stem the tide of this increasingly popular and profitable drug. It will be tough.
     
  2. astros123

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    Can I have a hit of what you're smoking?
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    The Southern border could be totally locked up and we would still be having a Fentanyl epidemic.
     
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  4. astros123

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    Bidens border policies right now are more restrictive than what trumps own border policy ever was.
     
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  5. thegary

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    lol at the idiot…
     
  6. adoo

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    in my neck of the woods, she is Lady Bird​

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  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Apparently Fentanyl wasn't a problem until Jan. 21, 2021..
     
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  8. Astrodome

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    That's mostly what I said. We agree.
    Yeah, the US is just so much more appealing under Biden leading to the record numbers.
     
  9. astros123

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    You never answered my question?

    Can I take a hit? You gotta be smoking something to think trump aka the gop will win in 24
     
  10. Xopher

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    I'm trying to figure out what locking the southern border would do about fentanyl when 90% of the people bringing it across are Americans.
     
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  11. Xopher

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    Record numbers of what exactly?
     
  12. JoeBarelyCares

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    Locally, county commissioners do it all the time with infrastructure projects. But I agree that it is in bad taste, whoever does it. It's free advertising for the next election at the taxpayer's expense.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Right? It's like everybody was asleep the last 30 years while we let big pharma make a literal and figurative killing pushing opiods on the public.

    Shut the border all you want, the killer is already inside the house.





     
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  14. astros123

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    We had a D- infrastructure in this country for 3 decades before Biden came in. If allowing politicians to name things after themselves after passing historic legislation incentives leaders to keep passing bills that would keep our country modern then by all MEANS DO IT! Why was our infrastructure crumbling for decades before Biden came in? Why did trump pass a tax cut before infrastructure? Why didn't Obama ever prioritize infrastructure?

    Again you talk about this free advertising but not about passing the actual legislation. There's a reason why no industrial policy has passed congress in over 40 years before bidens IRA/IIJA.

    You don't just sign a executive order that allows you build. You have to actually govern which leaders can't do. Obama was awful as well with congress.
     
  15. Xopher

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    He needs to build a Joe "**** Your Feelings" Biden Bridge in rural West Virginia
     
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    The Fentanyl epidemic, and it's certainly an epidemic, is primarily coming from China in one form or another. It's a worldwide problem, not a problem mainly for the United States. The image and quotes below, after my personal comments, are from the executive summery of a January, 2020 DEA Intelligence Report, available online.
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    Considering that the CCP government has an incredible grip on the people of that country, and it's imports and exports, it is difficult for me to believe that the government there couldn't be far more effective in at least slowing the massive export of Fentanyl and the key issue from China, Fentanyl Precursors.

    Fentanyl is incredibly deadly because only 2 milligrams is a lethal dose. It is stamped out in its tens of thousands in fake opioid tablets by various sources as one method of distribution, mixed with cocaine in order to "boost" it's effect as another. My significant other's nephew died of an overdose of Fentanyl mixed into cocaine. He was a wonderful fellow, 50 years old. I had known him most of his life and his death was devastating to us all. Apparently, he thought he'd purchased some coke. He dropped dead on his driveway.
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    Executive Summary
    The flow of fentanyl into the United States in 2019 is more diverse compared to the start of the fentanyl crisis in 2014, with new source countries and new transit countries emerging as significant trafficking nodes. This is exacerbating the already multi-faceted fentanyl crisis by introducing additional source countries into the global supply chain of fentanyl, fentanyl-related substances, and fentanyl precursors. Further, this complicates law enforcement operations and policy efforts to stem the flow of fentanyl into the United States. While Mexico and China are the primary source countries for fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances trafficked directly into the United States, India is emerging as a source for finished fentanyl powder and fentanyl precursor chemicals.

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    CHINA
    Currently, China remains the primary source of fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances trafficked through international mail and express consignment operations environment, as well as the main source for all fentanyl-related substances trafficked into the United States. Seizures of fentanyl sourced from China average less than one kilogram in weight, and often test above 90 percent concentration of pure fentanyl.

    As Beijing and the Hong Kong Special Autonomous Region (SAR) place restrictions on more precursor chemicals, Mexican transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) are diversifying their sources of supply. This is evidenced by fentanyl shipments from India allegedly destined for Mexico. On May 4, 2018, the Hong Kong SAR updated their drug law to control the fentanyl precursors 4-anilino-N-phenethyl-4- piperidine (ANPP) and N-phenethyl-4-piperidone (NPP) as well as the synthetic opioid U-47700. This matches China’s scheduling of ANPP and NPP on July 1, 2017. The move by the Hong Kong SAR is considerable, since synthetic opioids produced and shipped from China may transit the Hong Kong SAR en route to the United States. Effective May 1, 2019, China officially controlled all forms of fentanyl as a class of drugs. This fulfilled the commitment that President Xi made during the G-20 Summit. The implementation of the new measure includes investigations of known fentanyl manufacturing areas, stricter control of internet sites advertising fentanyl, stricter enforcement of shipping regulations, and the creation of special teams to investigate leads on fentanyl trafficking. These new restrictions have the potential to severely limit fentanyl production and trafficking from China. This could alter China’s position as a supplier to both the United States and Mexico.

    MEXICO
    Mexican TCOs are producing increased quantities of fentanyl and illicit fentanyl-containing tablets, with some TCOs using increasingly sophisticated clandestine laboratories and processing methods (i.e., laboratory grade glassware, unregulated chemicals, and industrial size tablet presses). DEA, working in conjunction with Mexican officials, has seized and dismantled numerous fentanyl pill pressing operations and fentanyl synthesis laboratories in 2018 and 2019, highlighting the role TCOs play in supplying the US fentanyl market. Fentanyl is smuggled across the U.S.-Mexico border in low concentration, high-volume loads, kilogram seizures often contain less than a 10 percent concentration of fentanyl. TCOs are also increasingly producing wholesale quantities of illicit fentanyl pills and smuggling them into the United States. In December 2018, Mexican officials in combination with DEA authorities seized an illicit pill mill in Azcapotzalco, Mexico City. Law enforcement officials seized illicit fentanyl-laced oxycodone M-30 pills, suspected fentanyl powder, precursor chemicals and multiple other items related to the production of fentanyl-laced illicit pills. As with the Mexicali, Mexico fentanyl pill mill seized in September 2018, DEA reporting indicated the organization operating the pill mill in Mexico City is linked to the Sinaloa Cartel. DEA reporting continues to indicate the Sinaloa and the New Generation Jalisco (Cártel de Jalisco Nueva Generación or CJNG) cartels are likely the primary trafficking groups responsible for smuggling fentanyl into the United States from Mexico. To date, the fentanyl synthesis and fentanyl pill production operations dismantled in Mexico have either occurred in territories controlled by these cartels or have had involvement by members/associates of these cartels. In addition, these TCOs are known to control the trafficking corridors in Mexico that connect to California and Arizona, indicating drugs passing through these associated areas would need to be approved by these organizations.

    INDIA
    In 2017, the DEA provided information to India’s Directorate of Revenue Intelligence, resulting in the takedown of an illicit fentanyl laboratory in Indore, India in 2018. DEA reporting indicates an Indian national associated with the Sinaloa Cartel initially supplied the organization with fentanyl precursor chemicals, NPP and ANPP, after which a Chinese national also affiliated with the Sinaloa Cartel would synthesize the fentanyl and traffic it from India to Mexico. Between February and March 2018, the India- and China-based suspects shifted their production from China to India, likely due in part to China’s regulation of ANPP and NPP. The organization likely transferred their production to India due to difficulties obtaining precursor chemicals in China and the increasing pressure from Chinese authorities on fentanyl manufacturing operations. This may serve as an important precedent, given China’s newly imposed restrictions on fentanyl and fentanyl precursors as a class. Fentanyl and fentanyl precursor trafficking from India to TCOs in Mexico or direct to the United States may be poised to increase if China-based traffickers work with Indian nationals to circumvent China’s new controls on fentanyl. In addition, in February 2018, India announced controls on the exportation of ANPP and NPP, similar to previous regulations enacted by China, which will likely result in stricter controls on these precursors. In December 2018, the Mumbai Anti-Narcotics Cell (ANC) seized approximately 100 kilograms of the fentanyl precursor NPP and arrested four Indian nationals in Mumbai, India. India’s Narcotics Control Bureau (NCB) reported to DEA in April 2019 that the seizure was identified as NPP through forensic analysis at a state-run laboratory in India. According to the ANC, the NPP was destined for Mexico and deliberately mislabeled. This was the third seizure of a fentanyl-related substance or fentanyl precursor linked to Mexico in 2018, demonstrating growing links between Mexican TCOs and India-based fentanyl precursor chemical suppliers. Given the behavior of Mexican TCOs who obtain fentanyl precursors and finished fentanyl from China, it is highly likely the precursor chemicals purchased from India were to be used in the synthesis of finished fentanyl destined for sale in the United States.

    OUTLOOK
    The flow of fentanyl to the United States in the near future will probably continue to be diversified. The emergence of India as a precursor chemical and fentanyl supplier as well as China’s newly implemented regulations have significant ramifications for how TCOs’ fentanyl and fentanyl precursor chemical supply chains will operate. Mexican TCOs are likely poised to take a larger role in both the production and the supply of fentanyl and fentanyl-containing illicit pills to the United States, especially if China’s proposed regulations and enforcement protocols are implemented effectively. Fentanyl production and precursor chemical sourcing may also expand beyond the currently identified countries as fentanyl lacks the geographic source boundaries of heroin and cocaine as these must be produced from plant-based materials.

    https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20 Fentanyl Flow in the United States_0.pdf
     
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  17. basso

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    great, a vote of confidence.

     
  18. basso

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    given Mexico's role here, may we assume you support greater security at the border?
     
  19. tinman

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    Didn’t prince die from fentanyl
     
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  20. tinman

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    I think the fentanyl is coming from the border with Mexico

    but the virus came from Wuhan China
     
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