the only thing thats nonsense is bringing up offensive stats when someone tells you jokic sucks at defense
it doesnt matter what accolades his teammates have when they are good players and a good team. Aaron gordon, kcp, jamal murray are not nobodies unless you are a casual. And at that point u have no business bringing up advanced stats We had a team of good role players that took 4 all stars to 7 with just cp3 and harden
Raptor isn’t an offensive stat…..it has both. He also doesn’t suck, denver’s defense is just fine when jokic is on the court
No it doesnt. And no it absolutely doesnt when it puts jokic as a top 5 defender lmao It also doesnt account for the fact giannis can switch onto the other teams best player while the nuggets have to hide jokic It doesnt account for the fact that embiid contests every shot when his teammates get blown by while jokic waves his hand and sits under the basket to get the rebound. Which one do you think looks better on the stats sheet? Most importantly if jokic is so good why do they have the same number of wins?
The fact is jokic is not infinitely better than giannis and embiid. That is ****ing ridiculous Jokic should be held to the same standard as anyone else. None of those players would sniff 3 back to back mvps
If you think raptor is an incorrect metric, what do you think is a worthwhile metric to look at? Jokic is first by a mile in raptor, first in EPM, first in every basketball reference metric like VORP, BPM, WS and WS/48. Are they just all wrong and your magical eye test is right? Embiid plays with a guy named james harden, who’s light years better then any nugget….
were not going to undermine actually watching games now. Thats not a thing How about wins per season? I like that stat
Harden might be light years better than jamal murray but aaron gordon is light years better than tobias harris. Mpj is light years better than pj tucker. Kcp is light years better than deanthony melton
That stat would be super useful if all 3 guys had identical teammates, no doubt. Unfortunately they do not
again, just because you personally dont know the players doesnt mean they are bad. Thats just yet another not watching the games argument
Idk why you’re saying what you’re saying, if you hate serbians, or you’re a philly fan or bucks fan, i’m sure you have your reasons. If you think every single metric is wrong and your eye test is right, that’s cool. You’re allowed to be a fool
Whats crazy is murray, harden, kcp, mpj, gordon would have spanked kd and the warriors small ball 5 Jokic with the same team got blown out by the bulls tonight
They are only a good team due to Jokic being on the team. Like I said, swap Jokic for Embiid and the 76ers are by far the best team in the NBA and the nuggets struggle to make the playoffs.
Lol of course a casual like you would cite a team accomplishment when attempting to evaluate an individual player SMH.
It's fact. You and others want 2 scream reverse racism, without knowing the definition of racism itself lol
Russell won mvp for his triple double as a 6th seed despite his even worse than jokic defense. I mean he didn't even try. He blatantly left his man open to run to get his rebound while his teammates did the dirty work of boxing out for him and even going as far as not taking the rebound until russ got a hold of it. Leading the league in uncontested rebounds by a mile. He made triple doubles a joke. That is stat padding aided by his teammates and his coach. Jokic does none of that. Needs none of that. To you and Perk and like-minded, Jokic real problem is he is not black. Thunder needed those triple double but Jokic is stat padding. Revisionist history of Russell getting blasted in the media when he was all they ever talked about and they televised him passing Oscar like it was the lebron scoring record. Russell didn't get the heat until several years later. It was Harden who didn't get love and respect. But thats not convenient to his argument because Harden is black. If lebron was doing what Joker is doing, yall would be calling him goat and its not close. Its no wonder perk the clown thinks lebron is and you have brons face as your profile picture. Shows how little both of you know. The other lebron clown nick wright- called jokic worst mvp ever. Shannon spreads racist bait about NFL head coaching bc one in particular cant win an NFL head coaching job. Its always convenient to single out. Always convenient to bring out the race card the moment someone you RELATE to doesn't win. Bringing up relating to jokic because people are white as if you don't do the same? As if Asians didn't do the same? As if all of us don't do the same? Its just not allowed to have white pride? How many in the beginning didn't like steph bc he was a light skin/yellow bone? Bc they didn't relate to him? Light skins ain't real blacks until its convenient again, right? Sometimes it even just comes down to relating to size. I beleive Shannon Sharpe relates to LeBron because they are both big strong dudes, and Jordan was dismissive toward Shannon when he first met MJ creating non ball related bias against. Its personal. Perkins has a vote. Rejoice in that because it should be taken away from him and given to a smarter person who doesn't see skin color and racism in everything that doesn't benefit him or who he relates to. Nothing will stop Perk from seeing racism in everything and cherry picking events or stats to give himself the confirmation bias he needs to be right because he experienced racism in his life and its become his excuse to be racist himself. Just like many abuse victims go on to become abusive themselves....or maybe he was just raised to think that way the way other racists are made.
