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ESPN pushing racism & division

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by JW86, Mar 7, 2023.

  1. jerryclark

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    except they do. Advanced stats dont matter when none of them accurately factor in one whole half of the game

    Also they wouldnt be winning 3 in a row. Something that held against giannis himself. The mvp award has always had non basketball influence. Why does it stop with jokic?
     
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    good try
     
  3. astrosrule

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    The mvp should go to whoever deserves it. I don’t want narratives or other nonsense to factor in to give undeserving playeds mvps. I don’t want 2001 iverson or 2008 kobe. This year, jokic has blown everyone away by a mile so he should get it. Embiid and giannis have not bee close this year. You may not care about advanced stats but luckily enough people care about the actual on court production (hopefully)
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    You can claim that objective metrics are wrong...but that's just you saying "hey I think my subjective eye test is better" while I'm sure you might think that, it's not really a convincing argument.

    While it's true that not any one metric is perfect, when all of them kind of agree, it's hard to stand there and say they are all wrong.
     
  5. jerryclark

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    yea luckily enough people care about advanced stats when its jokic... who cant play defense

    How convenient lmao
     
  6. jerryclark

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    you literally posted a stat that says james harden should be the mvp 4 times

    And he won 1
     
  7. jerryclark

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    Yall cant be this stupid lmao
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, the voters got it wrong, that happens when they go away from what is objective and vote based on narratives and "eye test" BS....which is what you are advocating for.

    You're actively wanting the voters to get it wrong simply so a different player wins.
     
  9. jerryclark

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    nah im just wondering why it stops with jokic. Why is it so hard to admit the obvious reason?

    Its not a big deal. People like who they can relate to. Just go ahead and admit it
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Oh are you unironically pushing that moronic Kendrick Perkins BS? LOL, that's adorable.
     
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    why are you dodging the question?

    This is pathetic
     
  12. astrosrule

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    The metrics didn’t exist when you had the iverson and kobe nonsense. Since they do exist now, why shouldn’t they be used? Why should it be based on some made up narratives and “eye test”, when we know who actually deserves it
     
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    many advanced stats actually paint Jokic out to be some very good defender…it’s a joke
     
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    No, I was just trying to clarify that you really were foolish enough to think that because 3 white guys in the last 30+ years managed to win the MVP it means the voters are racist. I honestly didn't realize that real people were that simple minded. I assumed it was just a TV talking head thing to say to get the rubes all worked up.

    Anyway, to the point, right now Jokic is by far the best player in the NBA. No one is even close and that's just objectively a fact. That's why he's won the last 2 MVP's. Given that is the obvious reason, there's no point in even entertaining foolish conspiracy theories that are based on false premises.
     
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    jokic is not the only player that deserves it like you all seem to make it out to be

    Giannis and embiid are both elite defenders and jokic gets targeted on defense
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    No, he literally is the only one who deserves it. He's dragging a team full of relative nobodies to the best record in the league. Swap Jokic for Embiid and the 76ers are the best team in the league and the Nuggets might not make the playoffs.

    Jokic has literally never had a teammate that was an All-Star, All-NBA or All-Defense. Ever. Can Embiid say that? Can Giannis?

    Let's face it, there's a reason you seem to be upset about Jokic winning and I think we both know it has nothing to do with basketball.
     
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    Look at any of the metrics instead of just making up nonsense because you don’t like him. He blows them away in raptor and everything else.
     
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    Does any other player have this kind of effect on his entire team? Look what happens to them when he's not on the court.

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    The racism schism tactic by BSPN to attract energy from its dulocracy chattel subjects is beyond boring

    Where dumbed down brainwashed subjects are going to start mentioning the two coloring crayon adjective/fictions, and leaving out the other crayons whixh doesn't exist for unknown reasons

    Jokic is about to join Bird as the second hybrid Albion European to win the award 3 yrs in a row, joining the American duo of B Russell/Wilt

    Now let me go contact the people in Greenland to see if they have so called Green people over there to join the coloring crayon 50 yd dash(Black/Wight race) that only goes on in the modern colonial USA since 1776
     
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    The racism schism tactic by BSPN to attract energy from its dulocracy chattel subjects is beyond boring

    Where dumbed down brainwashed subjects are going to start mentioning the two coloring crayon adjective/fictions, and leaving out the other crayons which doesn't exist for unknown reasons

    Jokic is about to join Bird as the second hybrid Albion European to win the award 3 yrs in a row, joining the American duo of B Russell/Wilt

    Now let me go contact the people in Greenland to see if they have so called Green people over there to join the coloring crayon 50 yd dash(Black/Wight race) that only goes on in the modern colonial USA since 1776
     

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