KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

KPj looked abysmal yesterday. Jalen will probably look abysmal next game. Sengun the game after that. Jabari looks abysmal almost always. Tari looks either amazing or abysmal.

I'm past the point of blaming these players who are all being played out of position, incorrectly or subbed in and out incorrectly. I am a huge anti-KPj guy but even I can tell when something is fair or isnt. He was forced to play with an absolutely awful second unit where the game was essentially lost. As is usually the case. KJ Martin/Josh Christopher/Usman Garuba/Tari Eason. Those were the shooters. Crowd the paint and force KPj to pass it to one of them. That's why he was -25.

 

I mean KPJ is like a season away from being labeled a vet. Ya the 19 year old rookie is going to contribute less to winning unless he's a wonderkin like Luka.

 

How far would SGA have taken this team this season at 22 years old with the same supporting cast of poor shooters. Probably bottom 3 teams?

I’m not saying we shouldn’t replace KPJ with Henderson but I see him passing the ball and everybody just bricking shots or doing something stupid with it

 

Our guard depth outside our starting backcourt is poor enough where no KPJ actually harms the team in my opinion. That says a lot about the lack of talent on the bench at least offensively.

 

Apparently Silas has given up on both Nix and TyTy. Tate is our backup PG now. And somehow he would sudden play one of them heavy minutes in one game, and then completely bench them the next. Some people say that Silas is intentionally losing games. But if that's what he's been doing, he should at least have played a bad player a lot, like Nix. But our best tank commander was nowhere to be seen in some games.

 

one could argue with how the kpj stans have been hyping about the head honcho, u figured he would carry the bench and he couldn't even do that.

 

KPJ has flashes of good defense.

To play games like some people like to on this board...

Ts%
All guards under 24 with 30 min a night.

KPJ is middle of the pack. The 3 above and below him:

Ja Morant
Tyler Herro
Keldon Johnson
Lamelo Ball
Josh Giddey
Jalen Green

For those who were curious, top 5:
Haliburton
Garland
Maxey
Simons
Edwards

 

Agreed, but Smith is an investment.

I'll give him one more year to show improvement before writing him off.

 

Agreed, but Smith is an investment.

I'll give him one more year to show improvement before writing him off.

I could say the same for Green. He's younger by a year but more of a liability on defense and generally worse so far in other areas.

The bigger concern is the coaching and development, not the struggles.

 

KPj stans don't really exist. They're just folk that wanted Mobley and believe that KPj and Green are redundant. KPjs success reinforces the trope that we should've drafted Mobley.

 

folks that have littered this one thread alone are definitely kpj stans. it's not difficult to figure out who those are either, disregarding anything and everything that doesn't praise him

 

I've been saying since last yr, do not trade or let anyone go until Silas is gone. They traded C Wood and now our 3pt shooting is abysmal!

If nothing else, C Wood could at least hit a 3pt shot. We have no front court player in the starting lineup that the opposition has to respect beyond the arc.

 

I am curious, what success?

 

I don't think I've ever heard a single soul defend this position. Drafting Green when a 7 foot mobile big was available was a huge blunder, but it is completely unrelated to KPJ in every sense of the word.
A more likely explanation is that Green supporters collectively lack knowledge of advanced statistics, and as a result, are unable to train their eye to recognise good players vs bad.
There are 3 players on the rockets with positive Raptor ratings, widely regarded as one of the best overall indicators in the public realm. They are, in order:
Sengun
Eason
KPJ.
That's it.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/
Creating a narrative about fans liking players because of other players being bad when the best statistics available support the most obvious explanation is laughable.
If you watch a game, rank the players, and it doesn't agree with Raptor, you need to work on your ability to understand what impacts the game, rather than make up narratives to support a view that's objectively wrong.

 

Explain the raptor formula. You said others don't understand advanced analytics. So explain in your own words and don't look it up because you are implying you already understand it.

 

Is it related to Toronto somehow?

 

Then on the other side of the coin you would have to remove Sengun for Mobley and they would still have 3 players in the plus side of the Toronto Raptor format and still be with basically the same team record with Mobley maybe offering two or three more wins

If you have played the game at somewhat a meaningful level and being game planned for then watching it makes it a lot easier dissecting it than referring to some Toronto Raptor new invented format, but its nothing wrong with using those formats, but they are not the holy grail

If the Cavs didn't trade for Mitchell then we would be able to gauge better what Mobley could be offensively since we know what he brings defensively, which is aided by the other Footer they have next to him

Leading up to that draft I went back n forth daily on who to select from those two, and it came down to if you want defense you select the big man and if you wanted offense and sell tickets/merchandise then you select the athletic scoring guard

And knowing from the outside looking in on how Tilman operates it was easy he was going for the player that could be more meaning to creating the quick $$$

 

I don't know but that poster says Green stans don't understand it implying he does. So that probably means he should be able to explain it without using references and just pasting link

 

"Playing at a meaningful level" is a completely meaningless statement unless you've played in the NBA (and even then, most NBA players dont become good coaches), and is exactly the type of narrative/excuse that armchair GM's make when they incorrectly assess what's going on.

Funnily enough, you have perfectly demonstrated the stereotype. You don't even know who made Raptor, which means you definitely don't know how it works. I'm not saying it's the holy grail, but it's light years ahead of anyone relying on "meaningful experience" to analyze player ability.