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2023 NFL Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by gucci888, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Hawkeye84

    Hawkeye84 Member

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    Which doctor is this?
     
  2. raining threes

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    The Dr. that as quoted upthread and has been right about 95% of the time. He's been right a lot more than the Texans medical staff over the years as was also pointed out upthread.

    He's a very respected surgeon who has contacts with other surgeons all over the country. Example Dr. Meyers who did the hernia surgery on Watt and the Dr. told us what was happening before it happened.
     
  3. Hawkeye84

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    So he hasn’t treated or even seen Young? Good reference. Get back to me when he actually examines Young.

    After his injury, Young played 6 games, threw 250 passes, 18 TDs and 2 int.

    Most every QB in the nation wishes they could be that injured.
     
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  4. Two Sandwiches

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    I thought you said it was Watt's back earlier.


    I'm genuinely curious. Not trying to get under your skin here. Please explain more about what he said/what happened with Watt. Seems like he had so many injuries I can't keep track, to be honest.
     
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    Yes, he did call Watt's back. He said that the microdisectomy (SP?) would limit Watt's range of motion, basically making him less agile and that it would affect his play. Watt actually had to have 2 of these same surgeries. (I could be wrong about exactly what he said and dont want to put words in the Dr.'s mouth)

    I was just using the hernia operation as an example of how well connected he is with other surgeons/Dr.'s around the country.
     
  6. raining threes

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    He's been right about 95% of the time.

    Take this for what it's worth.
     
  7. Hawkeye84

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    I take it worth zero since he hadn’t laid eyes on Young and there are multiple levels of severity to an AC sprain.

    I have asked you several times but for some reason you refuse to answer. Have you seen where a single GM or coach has expressed concern about Young’s shoulder?
     
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  8. raining threes

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    Ok

    And I'm not privy to GM's thoughts are you?

    95% is a pretty significant number to be right though.
     
  9. Omihall23

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    I've been reading that board for well over 10 years and he definitely gets things wrong sometimes. He tends to list things in degrees of certainty so most of his prognosis are a range of outcomes instead of a definitive determination. However, occasionally he speculates beyond the level of knowledge he could have without having actually examined the patient or having access to their medical information. Therefore, I would put him closer to a 75% hit rate.
     
  10. Two Sandwiches

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    This is someone you know? Or is this the dude from Texans talk? (Love his comments, btw... Just haven't read over there since the hire, although he doesn't seem to want Young in general)


    No disrespect, but I get what you're getting at, and I think this doc is batting above average when it comes to making these calls.

    What I don't believe, though, is that without seeing medical records and scans, he can't make for certain what each individual case looks like.

    While it does seem like he may have been correct in the past, it seems like he's just speaking on generalities when it comes to each type of injury.

    I seriously doubt he knows more than the Texans doctors themselves. I think to say such is facetious at best. To throw it around as a narrative is probably willfully ignorant. Remember that anything you hear from the team doctors, or the organization, has been through the spin cycle, on high, and should be taken with a grain of salt while wearing rose-colored glasses.


    As far as AC separations, yes, there is a high incidence of SLAP tears in the labrum with AC joint separations. Typically, these are reserved for more serious grade injuries, which it seems like Young did not have, based on his speedy return and continued success. There is one paper, however, in my research, that suggests that SLAP tears are more common in lower grade injuries than previously thought. Maybe he's speculating based off of this.

    Even still, I consider this narrative a reach, and without a doubt NFL teams will do their due diligence on the injury. He will face more scrutiny on this injury than any others in his NFL career, likely.


    But, don't take my comments for anything. I am not a doctor, however I know far more medically than most football fans.
     
  11. Hawkeye84

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    Not without examining someone it isn’t. If you were being truthful at all, you know if there was any concern it would have leaked to the media. It was all over every outlet that people were concerned about Tua’s injury. I didn’t have privy to G M’s insights then either? Not sure why you continue making things up but that’s your problem.
     
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    If no Bryce…

    2-&-12
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    I don’t know, I’m warming up to it. ;)
     
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    James really said a bunch of nothing

    "have enough ammo to trade up for one, Demeco believes in building the whole team so he may stay at 2, Slowik doesn't mind having a rookie QB start so they can build it around them"
     
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    I just know the Dr. has been right about 95% of the time and I'll take those odds.

    There's no real reason to continue with this.

    You have your opinion (Which I respect) and I'm going with the Dr. Neither one of our minds are going to be changed.
     
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    Both and although I get what you're saying. He's been right 95% of the time without examining the players we've mentioned. A much better batting average than the Texans medical staff without having examined the players mentioned. I'll give you another, he was totally against the Brennan Williams pick.

    BTW, I've left the TT board and came over here because I find this to be a more well rounded/better MB.
     
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  16. Hawkeye84

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    Just one question, this doctor you put so much stock into has publicly stated he believes Young is hiding an injury?
     
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    Tell me guys he's missed on? I can give you a list of guys he's hit on.

    From high draft picks like Clowney after his knee surgery/to Stingley. To lower round picks like Brennan Williams. To the 1st picjk in Texans franchise history Boselli, heck he even told us clipping AJ's hamstring would make him less effective in the future and shorten his career, Schaub? Spot On etc...
     
  18. Hawkeye84

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    Just for clarity, it’s been 22 weeks since Young hurt his shoulder. Anything above a Grade 2 will probably require surgery. Anyone hear of Young having surgery?

    How long does a Grade 1 AC joint sprain take to heal?
    The AC Joint or acromioclavicular joint is made up of the clavicle (collar bone) and the scapula (shoulder blade) connected via four ligaments. An injury to any of these ligaments can result in an AC joint sprain.

    AC joint sprains are graded according to the severity of the injury. In a grade 1 or mild AC joint sprain, the ligaments are stretched, causing micro-tears. The clavicle stays in place and the joint remains stable.


    With a grade 1 sprain, pain and swelling will be minimal. You will feel pain when you move your arm sideways away from your body. You may be required to wear a sling to allow the joint to rest. A grade 1 sprain will often heal within 2 to 4 weeks.

    How long does a Grade 2 AC joint sprain take to heal?
    In a grade 2 or moderate AC joint sprain, some of the ligaments are ruptured. This is often called a subluxation because the clavicle becomes unstable. You may feel a slight bump on your shoulder and moving your arm in all directions may cause you pain.

    This type of sprain typically requires a conservative treatment consisting of rest, pain medications, and physical therapy. It can take about 4 to 6 weeks for a grade 2 sprain to fully recover.
     
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  19. Two Sandwiches

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    Obviously, it interests me, and I do appreciate his commentary on there.

    I do know that he doesn't seem to want Young, and I haven't been snooping around there enough to see that it is specifically because of his injury. Never got the impression it was.


    Although I always got the impression he was more connected to the org?
     
  20. justtxyank

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    He posted on Texans Talk the exact language that was put in this thread. That's all there is.
     
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