I was at a charity event around Christmas. The performers were a drag queen and his piano player. He wore a long sequined evening gown and sang Christmas songs, standards and bantered with the piano guy and audience. Nothing at all sexual in that performance.
My stance is clear. I'm not sure why you're asking these questions. It isn't for the reasons you stated, though. How are we supposed to ban kids from sexual drag shows, as you agreed should be done, if their parents are still allowed to take them? Neither of us is a drag show expert. If there are appropriate drag shows for kids, show me. This is like saying that we shouldn't be allowed to drive a car at any speed because certain speeds are illegal. That's anything but logical. You're trying too hard.
There’s a debate about the appropriateness of drag shows (which up until about two years ago nobody really had a problem with) and then there’s the real debate that the right wants to have about the conspiracy theory they all buy into which is that the global elite democrats are all pedophiles, and drag shows are part of a grooming cult to lure children into their dungeons to be sex slaves. So let’s stop letting the usual suspects around here off the hook by pretending that they are really interested in debating about drag shows when in reality they are worked up about a child sex cult conspiracy theory. So cut the BS and get to the real point you guys are trying to make.
So.. you're arguing semantics? It was billed as a "drag show" and the performers perform in cabaret style drag shows throughout the year. There are certainly various degrees of drag shows, ranging from "rated G" (the show I saw) to "rated NC-17". To lump everything called a drag show as inappropriate for kids is disingenuous.
Drag shows for kids. That's another thing, there is no line. Or if there is a line, the line is drawn in pencil or blurry or dashed.
I went to a charity event. The performers were a drag queen and his piano player. The same drag queen and his piano player perform the same type of act at drag shows throughout the year.
LOL is this how you talk about any event with entertainment? You said "company Christmas party," but there was actually a casino night theme and you played roulette. Why didn't you say you were gambling??
Kind of like the same choice parents have to take their 8 year olds to see Deadpool, have them dress up as Deapool for Halloween, etc. I don't see people trying to make taking children to see rated R movies illegal. Parental Rights, until they aren't.
He is using his definition of what a drag show is rather than what the standard definition is (man or woman dressing up as opposite sex and performing).
Nope, not trying hard at all, your stance isn't very clear since you keep avoiding this question. You are saying that a man wearing a dress, tights, feminine clothing is sexual and that sexual things shouldn't be seen by children...so then the question begs if you think women wearing feminine clothes also sexual and should such clothes also be banned to protect children. I'm only just using what YOU'VE said and I don't know why you're dodging the question so hard. You don't realize based on you're posts you're advocating for making a dress code. You think it's silly to argue but this is what would be argued if such a case reached SCOTUS as precedent is on the line. If they were to favor such a law as this you then must realize it then doesn't stop another state with some theocratic fanatic to go further and then say "No, booty shorts and anything above the knee is sexual and should be banned from public." And again, it's cool if that is your belief but at least stand firm behind it? Or is it just you're okay with things being sexual in public life as long as they are heteronormative?
Even still, it's already illegal to expose children to obscene material. Like if there was some sudden surge of elementary teachers showing p*rn to their classroom the correct action wouldn't be to ban elementary teachers from showing videos to their classroom, the correct action would be to punish the teachers that exposed the children to p*rn.
@Frank_Duhon went from the Christmas party being a charity event with a piano player and a man in drag singing, to the event being billed as a drag show with maybe more drag performers (?). If by disingenuous he meant withholding information, then he was disingenuous. Or maybe I'm using the word wrong. In that case, my mistake.
Neither appropriate nor inappropriate because it wasn't meant for them. Still unclear if it was a drag show or not, but it wasn't directed at kids either way.
Exaggerated femininity for entertainment purposes, whether done by someone who is male or female, need not in itself be an act that is inappropriate for kids. Parents should have freedom to decide for themselves where to draw the line. Regulation is probably appropriate in extreme cases, but those laws should apply regardless of whether the performer is in drag or not.
I'm incapable of understanding why this stuff is the top of your priority list when you desire to discuss political issues on a NBA fan message board. Maybe your media bubble wants you to be more angry about irrelevant bs vs real issues because real issues make people angry at people in power with wealth and those people don't want you to be angry at them. They would be far more comfortable and feel much more safe if they convinced common folks that this type of stuff are the pressing issues of modern society.
