Except that people who are racist are actually guilty of doing something wrong. People that are trans have not done anything wrong by being trans.
I'm not saying women are oppressed or victimized by trans people at all. I'm saying that modern intersectional thought - which is merely one way of seeing and interpreting the world - might be unfair in what it asks of women in relation to trans women. I don't know which other viewpoints are out there, but treating one vocal school of thought as dogma shouldn't be the standard.
No. The amount of women in human history that had to adjust to anything regarding trans inclusion is so miniscule that I have to believe when someone brings it up that they are slightly influenced by right wing propaganda. I'm tired of this "both sides" bs.
People willing to volunteer to read to children aren't the bad guys. It doesn't hurt the children to be read to as long as the books are school appropriate. People bigoted against folks because of their appearance are far more of a threat to children.
"Human history" is a rather long time period to invoke when we're discussing current sociological changes. Just like the modern gay rights movement, a lot of this is being figured out in real time because the prior stigmatization of transgender people might have made our current discourse seem like a luxury to those in the past. Hell, we've got @Commodore posting "wolf in sheep's clothing" pedophilia memes in the midst of us having what I think of as genuine discourse. The fact that someone can come out as trans and live a happy, fulfilling and accepting life in spite of continued belligerence from the usual suspects is a good thing. But speaking in unprovable certitude like "the amount of women in human history that had to adjust to anything regarding trans inclusion is so miniscule..." does nothing to help convince those of us who are still trying to figure all of this out for ourselves. You also accused me of being influenced by propaganda instead of mentioning anything about how intersectionality is just one way of viewing and critiquing the world. If I've been influenced, help me become un-influenced instead of launching ad hominem attacks.
I'm not launching as hominems at you. I'm saying you are influenced by right wing propaganda. A lot of us are. Right wing propaganda often is the default state because right wing politics essentially is "protecting the current social and economic hierarchy". Therefore it's the default state to assume a small group of people who love very untraditional lives are a undue burden to a much more privileged group in relative terms like white women. It's not easy for people in a society to sympathize with the people who throw out your basic concepts of social norms. Therefore it's very easy to paint a narrative of burdens on women. It's been a spammed rhetorical tactic by the right and some good hearted posters like Nook but into it. There are a handful of women in existence that had things like their potential first place spot removed. The tactic is to spam the same 3 or 4 incidents over and over and over and over till there is this fog over the situation altering people's perceptions of relevance and frequency.
they are mentally unwell and we should not entertain their delusions just as you wouldn't praise someone for being fat, being unhealthy should have a social stigma attached to it, to discourage the behavior
"reading to children" is a benign pretense to dress up like a freak and be around children (they get off on it) which you seem to have fallen for
I haven't seen that data to indicate that. I have seen data to indicate that some people have had their mental health improved by living who they feel they were meant to be be. There are numerous causes of obesity.
I haven't seen any data indicating "they get off on it". I don't think it really matters how someone dresses. Children may be shocked for the first 5 minutes, but they won't care.
Honest question, why is it even a thing/movement that transgender people read to children? I wouldn't have the idea to read to children other than my own.
Normalize it. Create less situations of the 1 transgender kid amongst the crowd to not fear being open about it or fearing ostracization from family and the community they are in. Normalize in the sense that people don't freak out or look at you funny if you are trans so you aren't walking around in a constant reminder that society shuns you. Trying to prevent that.
honest answer. It is extremely rare for transgender people to read to children. It has happened but isn't a common occurrence or any movement amongst the trans community of which I am aware. The only examples of it that I know of are from people trying create outrage. This is the problem. People post "shocking" videos of things that were one-offs, outliers, and presume it is the norm and part of a general movement. It isn't.
So, ideological indoctrination. It's not for the benefit of the children. It's self-serving. Not wanting discrimination against transgender people doesn't mean wanting them to read to my children.
Yes, exactly this. The overwhelming majority of women I have spoken to, even very conservative ones have said that they will call a transwomen by the name they want, share bathrooms and even refer to them as transwomen or women. The problem is that there is a push in the transcommunity and the media to even get rid of the distinction between woman and female. A lot of transwomen are pushing for the terms female and women to mean the same thing, and for there to be zero distinction between a transwoman and a female woman. They are trying to change basic terms, and in doing to so are changing what it means to be a woman. Also, I have heard a number of women get upset that they cannot refer to transwomen as transwomen, but it is okay for transwomen to use the term cis-woman. A lot of women feel that they are being pressured to shut up and not complain or be labeled a bigot. There is a lot of bullying by the media and some transwomen. The other issue is that science is being compromised because we don't want to not be inclusive. Science is not supposed to be sentimental or subjective. The reality is that THERE is and will always be a difference between trans and cis women. Transwomen often were born male, and they had entitlement as males growing up, and their life experience and their memories are VERY different. They do not understand what it is like to be a female. Then, even if a trans female has passing priv (as it is called in the trans community), they will not give birth, they will not mensutrate or go through menopause, etc. These are all shared rights of passage, by the largest socially marginalized group in the world - females. They have their own shared experiences and culture, that is seldom written down in history books - this culture is being treated as if it doesn't matter or exist and it IS a big deal. It also isn't a coincidence that the transgender folks pushing the hardest and are the loudest about this part of the transgender argument were BORN and raised males, they were born with entitlement, and that doesn't go away because they are women as adults. There is almost NO discussion with transmen, because they were not typically born and raised with that type of entitlement. FORCING people to say things like "chest feeding" instead of "breast feeding" or arguing that there is no difference between trans and cis women is incredibly offensive to females from a cultural perspective. The thing is, the overwhelming majority of females are willing and will welcome transgendered women.... but don't tell them their views and experiences as females does not matter.
