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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    This is all fake outrage
    It’s not people on the d&d Clutchfans are hanging out with transformers or drag performers on the daily
    Or binge watching that rupaul show or swimming with Leah Thomas

    this is the same as Steph Curry saying he’s all about helping poor people but when they want to build affordable housing , he and his wife said his children weren’t safe around them
     
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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Actually last night I was hanging out with some trans people and drag performers. My band played at a music festival and several of the performers were trans gendered and the headliner band performed in drag.
     
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  3. thegary

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    Thank god I live in Brooklyn. Everyone here is either gay, trans, straight, bi, or weird as hell…
    And nobody gives a ****.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Which part of Florida?
     
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  5. JumpMan

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    Polk County. Not too far from Orlando. I think McGrady and Amare are from the area. It was more than 20 years ago. The area has changed a lot.
     
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  6. Commodore

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    no, he means attach a social stigma to it, in the same way we do racism
     
  8. Commodore

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    Mrs. Doubtfire did not believe he was a woman.
     
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    Neither do most males in drag shows.
     
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  10. tinman

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    Should I got to Tampa? man miami beach hotels went bonkers
    St Petersburg? i know peeps in Sarasota
    @AroundTheWorld
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    “Racism” is judging someone by external physical factors and not by the content of their character. So is judging someone who is transgender or in drag.
     
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  12. Commodore

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    how you choose to present yourself is a reflection of your character
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    So in other words we should judge people by their appearance and not by the content of their character.
     
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  14. Commodore

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    both

    like how I wouldn't want a morbidly obese person as a doctor
     
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    Furthermore there's an issue when (usually) the same ideological side of the spectrum argues that, when it comes to race and sexuality, subjective and lived experience makes all of the difference in the world. It's incongruous to say "Only gay people can play gay characters in movies because straight actors can't possibly channel what it means to be gay" while also saying "This person is now a woman, full stop, and must be regarded by society in the same way as somebody born a woman."

    A man who becomes a trans woman has the benefit of having lived as a man for x years prior to transitioning. They haven't had to put up with the lower wages, the demeaning comments, the dismissive attitudes in professional settings, etc. that women have. Granted, by opening up to the world as a trans woman, they're going to face a whole new set of prejudices that living as a man didn't force them to handle.

    I can see why women chafe at the idea that trans women must be regarded as their equals when, before transitioning, they might have enjoyed the benefits society confers upon men and not women. It's not hard to see why some women would consider this ideological imperative as erasure of their lived experience, something that intersectionality seems to value for every other minority group.
     
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    Don't know many trans people who were excelling in life in terms of privilege and mental health before their transitioning. I'm going to bet their lives were significantly more hard and felt a lot more ostracized and lonely than the median white woman in America.
     
  17. mtbrays

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    I don't think any of us know much in this thread.
     
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    Transgender people can dress in their choice of clothing
    You can’t change your race but you can wear pants
    @Commodore @tallanvor
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    Okay. I'm glad you said that because a lot of people here including you are doing oppression Olympics trying to portray women as victims of trans folks.

    I'm sorry but a median trans human has a much more difficult life and experience things like having their family shun them that the median white woman in America simply doesn't experience.
     

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