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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. JumpMan

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    None of that has anything to do with the don't say gay law. There are teacher shortages all over the country. Lots of reasons for it.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Yes every story I linked mentions that law and how that law made it worse. The first one there puts a subheader that reads...
    "Gov. Ron DeSantis’s culture warmongering has helped produce the highest teacher vacancy rates in the country."
     
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    Of course part of this is political. But it doesn't matter if it stops kids from attending drag shows.
     
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    brb checking out yoga videos on Youtube

    thx for the inspiration @JayGoogle :confused:
     
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  5. JayGoogle

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    Don't worry, enjoy it for now. Keep staying in that right wing echo chamber and you'll find out there's a group of people on the right that want to ban Yoga too...
     
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    That's not proof. One of your articles is an opinion peice. The truth is, teachers are quitting everywhere. There are shortages everywhere. None are getting fired over existing as LGBT. It's a tough job that allegedly gets tougher everyday and while some states and districts pay well, like around the Houston area, some like Florida districts apparently pay crap if they start at 47k. The decent pay isn't stopping teachers from quitting the profession and districts resorting to weird recruiting tactics like a 4 day week that some district is starting somewhere around Houston.
     
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    I didn't say teachers are getting 'fired' I said teachers were moving away from Florida. No, teachers aren't getting fired because it sounds like most districts do not appreciate Desantis' culture war and are sympathetic to the teachers who feel targeted. I said that teachers are moving.

    There are multiple articles, as I just showed, that attest to this, some of them local stories. Your post is an opinion piece because you didn't read any of the articles and just denied them outright because they didn't flow with your narrative.
     
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    Don't worry chief, I've been told this is nothing to worry about.

    He just wants to ban all forms of 'transgenderism' from public life entirely. No big deal.
     
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    I wonder how people who are transgender feel when they see this

    they’re saying u need to be eradicated
     
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    I get that Florida teachers are stating that they are leaving due to the law, but that wasn't the only reason, and they aren't getting fired for existing. They also aren't getting charged with any crime for existing either. At the end of the day, the don't say gay law is doing what it set out to do, which was to keep sensitive topics out of K-3 classrooms, and not what people were afraid it was going to do, which was to make teaching while gay illegal. The same will happen with the law against drag shows for kids. The shows will stop, men will still be able to live as women so long as it isn't to entertain kids.
     
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    Except that a story in which a child has two same-sex parents shouldn't be a sensitive subject. A teacher with a same-sex partner who has a picture of them and their spouse on their desk shouldn't be a sensitive subject.

    The idea that the real situation of same-sex couples has to be hidden while stories with heterosexual parents and photos do not have to be hidden is discriminatory.
     
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    Florida is a beautiful state
    If people really want drag shows for kids they should move to California, not only do you drag shows for kids
    You get heroin shows for kids too and it’s free!
    @ROXRAN
     
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    Again, define the laws to target sexualized content, if that's the concern. It should apply equally to sexual content involving people in drag and involving people not in drag. Creating laws that imply being in drag is inherently an inappropriate sexual activity is wrong.
     
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    I’m glad that Mississippi is not let them getting their units chopped off
    I mean that’s not like getting a haircut or braces

    SEC SEC
     
  16. JumpMan

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    None of that has to be hidden.

    The law does its job if it prevents "kid-friendly" drag shows. Kids can't get into strip clubs. Not sure what else you would like to include in the law. I don't know about wrong, necessarily, but being in drag is not normal. Kids won't understand.
     
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    I lived in Florida. It is beautiful. Have lots of family in Florida. But Florida was the first place I encountered trashy, barefoot white people. I don't want to go back. At 47k a year, it'd suck to teach there.
     
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    So you're admitting that the goal of the law isn't to hide sexually inappropriate content from children, but to shield something that is "weird" (to you) and that you presume kids wouldn't "understand".

    One can use the same argument to ban all sorts of free expression in society, all ostensibly "for the children". Sorry, that doesn't fly.
     
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    I guess we'll see. I'll hold that a lot of discriminatory policies and their effects don't come out at once, their ugly effects come out years later and people are left to wonder how it got like that and the people that supported them then get all shocked but you keep giving them ground to ban more stuff and take away more freedoms.

    At the end of the day, the line keeps moving and moving, now it's k-3 classrooms but they are literally moving it to 8th grade now.

    Once again. Drag queens do not 'live as women'. Like we can't discuss these things if you don't have the basics of what we're talking about. Drag Queens are not transwomen.

    As for the law, the law isn't against kids, it's a PUBLIC ban.

    I get that drag queens are sexually attractive to some people but a man playing dress up as a woman is not sexual, it's not any more sexual than a woman herself wearing a fancy gown. Again, I do understand that drag queens make some people have uncomfortable homoerotic thoughts but we shouldn't legislate based on that.
     
  20. JumpMan

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    You act as if the conversation of the "vagueness" of the law hasn't extended to transwomen. o_O

    You can't look at the clips of the drag shows kids have gone to and believe that it isn't sexual in nature. Even drag queens say that it is sexual. How would you describe it?

    A fancy gown is one thing, but women's lingerie or dancing on poles is way beyond that. You've probably quoted the videos of these shows, if you did, I don't think you defended what was actually going on in the clip.




    BTW, pretty sure I'm talking to men here, in those clips, I don't see many fathers taking their kids to these shows. I wonder why.
     
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