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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. waytookrzy079

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    https://nypost.com/2022/05/17/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-cullors-questionable-tax-filings/
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I guess you missed the very first line I wrote "while there have been some questionable expenses...", so I'm not sure what you are trying to prove
     
  3. waytookrzy079

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    you still fail to list 1 thing.... JUST ONE thing they've improved for the Black community other than some general regurgitated statement - "WeLL tHeY gAvE tO a CoMmUniTy To HeLp ThEiR cAuSe AnD sPrEaD ThEiR mEsSaGe"

    Which community?
    What cause?
    What message?
    What did this accomplish?
    Is that community better off now?

    Instead they glorify a lifelong criminal who had 9 trips to prison and was high off fentanyl when he died
     
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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Here is one page of many from their 990 form filed with the IRS

    Screenshot_20220716-201116_OneDrive.jpg
     
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  5. TheJuice

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    Derrick Chauvin killed George Floyd.
    George Zimmerman walked after shooting Trayvon
    Ahmaud Arbery was literally lynched
    Breona Taylor was asleep.
     
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  6. jiggyfly

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  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Chauvin was convicted.
    As well he should have, you are allowed to defend yourself.
    Lynching requires taking someone from police custody, so you cannot literally lynch someone running through a neighborhood. Also, all three of the defendants in his killing were convicted.
    Breona Taylor was standing right next to her boyfriend who shot a cop.
     
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  8. FranchiseBlade

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    As you said, you're allowed to defend yourself. Someone broke into the home. It was the police.
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The police had a lawful right to break into the home. The boyfriend had a lawful right to shoot at them (he has not been charged). They had a lawful right to shoot back, because they also are allowed to defend themselves when people shoot at them when they are serving a warrant. Breonna Taylor made poor choices in her associations, and it got her killed. BLM said that the police went to the wrong home (they didn't), that Taylor had nothing to do with the investigation they were pursuing (she did), that they illegally broke in without announcing themselves (also false, they had a no-knock warrant but knocked and announced anyway), and murdered her while she was asleep in her bed (they hit her with return fire after her boyfriend shot a police officer and she was standing right next to him in a dark hallway). If BLM is right, why do they need to lie about what happened? Shouldn't the actual facts be enough to prove their point?
     
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  10. FranchiseBlade

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    Her choices didn't get her killed. There is a reason why they no longer allow those types of warrants.

    She was killed because they allowed stupid types of warrants.
     
  11. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    They didn't even use the no-knock provision of the warrant (which I already stated above). A non-law enforcement witnesses gave a statement that they heard the officers knocking at least three times and announcing once that they were police. As far as the outcome of this case is concerned, they just used a search warrant how all search warrants can be used. The type of warrant had nothing to do with her death. Dating armed drug dealers and letting them stash drug money in her home is what got her killed. Even the reason her boyfriend shot the cop is related to that. He thought her drug dealer ex-boyfriend was the one breaking into the apartment. Her choices were absolutely a major factor in her death.

    So once again, if BLM (for whom you are carrying water here) are right about this issue, why are the actual facts insufficient to make your case.
     
  12. leroy

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    Chauvin may have been convicted but many on the right continue to use Floyd's past as some sort of justification and think the cops shouldn't have been held responsible.

    Maybe it doesn't live up to the dictionary definition of a lynching. Semantics. Remember that part in the Arbery case where the DA was going to let the 3 walk? No arrests were made for nearly 3 months until a pressure campaign started once the video was released.
     
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  13. rocketsjudoka

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    You're blaming Breona Taylor for her death xxcept you've acknowledged that Breona Taylor's boyfriend had the right to shoot back and as far as I can recall Breona Taylor wasn't charged with anything. If anything she was bystander shot in an exchange of fire.
     
  14. StupidMoniker

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    You seem to think there is a contradiction there. There is not. Walker had the right to shoot, because he had a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury and was not aware that the people who broke the door down were police officers. Had she not had her poor associations, the police would not have been at her apartment in the first place. The fact that Walker was not criminally liable for shooting at the officers does not change the fact that Taylor would be alive if she made better choices.

    Let me give you another example to demonstrate. I don't think the police were justified in shooting Ashli Babbit. Even so, she would not have been killed if she had not been involved in the riot in the Capitol. She was a major contributor to her own death. She made very poor choices and died for them, regardless of the propriety or impropriety of the actions of anyone else.
     
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    Always remember folks that the majority of Nazi and white supremacist rhetoric isn't about being superior but about white people being victims.
     
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  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Playing weak to remain stronger.

    DD
     
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    The desire to erase the past and not talk about slavery and racism is understandable. Can't have discussions in class that make white straight Christian men uncomfortable.
     
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    On the other hand, what does this discussion do to Black people? What good comes of it?

    Being reminded that they have been nothing but slaves and white people have been their masters can't cause an inferiority complex or make them angry, right? Can't make white people develop a superiority complex either.

    If the aim is to maintain the order, we can say these constant reminders of that order are necessary and effective.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I think a good reason to discuss racial history and its impact on socioeconomics is so that a white boy in America doesn't grow up and say this:
    https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/fiscal-fact/median-value-wealth-race-ff03112019
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    Is a result of black culture.


    Which unfortunately is the answer most uneducated white conservatives in America believe.

    So a lot of white people believing that the median white household having 1000% more wealth than the median black household is a black culture issue is a problem that is as much an issue of a lack of education as much as a problem of racism. Those two go hand in hand.

    So can you kinda squint a little and understand why it might be important?
     

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