The language, as I understand it, is pretty broad about what it criminalizes as is its definition of "public". What about the hypothetical of a pride parade? I know homosexual parents who might take their children (anything under 18) to one. Should those parents be prosecuted if there are incidentally people in drag at the parade? FWIW I largely agree with @Nook in that I don't understand why people on the left are so eager to use drag queen story hours as a political signifier. But I do care about government intrusions on free speech.
What does it mean to say normalize dysphoria? Let me ask you something - do you believe that being transgender is something you pick up culturally or something that has a genetic basis?
Why get pissed or in an uproar over drag queens reading to children? It just seems so odd to me that the problem is that it's people on the left getting upset - whereas in reality it's the people on the right who are getting upset to the point they need to enact laws? We have so many threads on this forum about wokeness and how the left is trying to control speech and whatnot. Yet when a thread that shows the right doing the same comes up - all of a sudden don't make a big deal of it? So we can't discuss this in D&D because it's less important than Harry Potter or Marvel? The laws being passed aren't about drag queens here, it's about going after transgender people - as a lawyer, you can't tell me that a law written as making it illegal to "impersonate a female" in public is incredibly vague. This isn't about pushing drag shows indoors, it's about controlling the way people dress because they are transgender. It's no different than saying women aren't allowed to go out with a mustache or a scarf.
Conservatives are correct that most people don't care about drag shows, and many may even be disgusted by them. Therefore, making a big fuss about them and legislating against them is seen as useful by some on the right. This is part of the growing anti-LGBT movement from the right, which stems from both a dislike of these people and the belief that it's good politics. In their fervor to oppose these individuals, they are disregarding basic principles of individual rights and free speech. That will cause them to lose support from the middle, but as with any movement with strong momentum, it can easily get out of control. The base wants to be anti-LGBT, even if it comes at the expense of basic principles and losing the middle.
Actively lying because I neglected to remember the few days some kids in a few school districts had to wear masks?
Why in the hell is there a need to specifically ban drag shows if this is already law? According to existing state law, what is considered harmful to minors would be "any description or representation, in whatever form, of nudity, sexual excitement, sexual conduct, excess violence or sadomasochistic abuse when the matter or performance: (A) Would be found by the average person applying contemporary community standards to appeal predominantly to the prurient, shameful or morbid interests of minors; (B) Is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community as a whole with respect to what is suitable for minors; and (C) Taken as whole lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific values for minors
I believe its ultimately genetic based. Still, I think there is a bit of social contagion to it. Like, I dont believe that all of a sudden 1/3 of a generation is fully queer, compared to 5-10% before. With it all coinciding with the invention of social media & advanced med treatments. Ironically to that belief, I still agree with firm streamlining of gender/sex identities, over allowing "fluidity". There are many examples of people de-transing back to their sex. But after they've already chopped off functioning organs, after permanent alterations from hormone treatments. Conservative overreach and politics aside, irreversible damages isnt something that should taken lightly
Yeah that statement looks odd on 2nd thought. Of course its not the main thing they're doing. I meant, that is a byproduct after effect of what they're doing. I just think body / gender dysphoria isnt a cute cuddly thing like they're making it to be. You had a following post that helps explain more Acknowledgment of using drag as an excuse to pass trans laws, coincidentally admits that drag also was a device used for trans promotion. Yes there's bad conservative overreach. Still it does not mean that drag reading did not have a lowkey agenda behind it. The drag apparatus had to first be presented, for there to be an analysis & response after. To me, its ok to at least think "lewd infused drag in kids spaces" is at least a little peculiar, even from common folks. Now its having to pick a "side".
I agree but will point out that making legislation and talking about something a lot is the opposite of “not caring.”
Yes of course becaue I think we don’t need a law about something I’m a drag show enthusiasts. I can’t get enough of drag shows so much I post constantly about them and bring them up frequently.
That's ok. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Whatever floats your boat. You are of legal age. Nobody is doing anything to stop you from enjoying your drag shows, even if you visit Tennessee.
Also just wondering where does this law draw the line? I used to watch Benny Hilll and he would frequently dress in drag. Pro wrestlers like Hulk Hogan and Jess Ventura would wear feather boas and fishnets and I watched them as a kid (maybe that’s why Im a drag show enthusiasts )
For someone who doesn’t care about drag show versus an enthusiast like me you seem to have posted much more about them than I do.
Only to keep you drag show enthusiasts entertained, while you are at your computers, instead of in a drag show. And remember, always wear your masks!
The passed bill doesn’t target people dressed up in gaudy makeup, hairstyle, and dress. It targets people “impersonating” other males or females. The problem people have are with the ramifications of what bills like this have for people in the LGBTQ community, by sustaining or promoting attitudes that they need to be hidden away from polite society. That’s the issue. No one in this thread is arguing for sexualized content to be more freely available to kids.
i didnt say they were and i already said that the bill which just passed is stupid, probably unconstitutional and worded so vaguely that it could make being transgender in public illegal. im 100% against it. but i still think people who want to dress in drag to read to kids at libraries are dorks who are hurting the LGBTQ rights movement.
