Absolutely. I don't love all this Sabonis slander. Sabonis is a 26 yr old, 3 time All-Star averaging 19/12.5/7 on amazing efficiency (.674 TS%!). We'd be incredibly lucky if Sengun became Sabonis.
Ya I really don't get this notion of some hard cap on the Kings ceiling. Their best players are 25 and played their first full season together and are the third seed on pace for around 50 wins. They will get better the following seasons just from adding experience and guys like Murray developing.
and people take you seriously, nah definitively not. mr. the rockets are making the play in nonsense. and now you're trying to push Sac is some legit threat. lol gtfoh. you yap about the dumbest shitt around here don't quote me then
lmao, not sure if serious we are not talking about when Billups was 25, we are talking about when he was in Detroit winning a championship and making multiple conference finals Chauncey Billups literally had 55% TS the year he won a title, and 61% TS the following year when he made the finals again… Can u tell me what the league average TS was back then? Rasheed Wallace…a big that can post up and space the floor while defending at a high level…yeah, seems like the current era is perfect for someone like him low assist guys back when teams struggled to score 90 points, spacing was ass, and everybody wanted to shoot low efficiency midrangers all game…I must’ve missed when Fox was some assist generating demon
Chancy Billups was like a 10 year vet in the league before he became an above average offensive player. So again, Sabonis and Fox are significantly better offensive players at 25. Their offensive ceiling is much higher.
I don't think Sabronis's is a superstar yet. but if not winning a title is a requirement all superstar should have I disagree. Harden was a freaking superstar when he played for us. There's superstars And there's stars. Adding a weird a$$ category, between the two mvp caliber players is just weird
yeah man those players will create a decent/medicore/average team. an average age of players playing min in the late 20's is 100% better than 19 year olds and 20 year old 2nd year players. What are you even trying to say? Just writing to write? Roy Hibbert had started 81 games the prior season. That is a vet with experience for practice. I didnt even mention jameer nelson which averaged 10 points a game. Also Mason Plumlee was aged 26 and is still playing in the league does that count? Sorry man but your reply was ridiculous.
it isn't weird. it's just another level. You have your own way of looking at it and so do I. I don't hold the standard of superstar as loosely as you. It's the highest level a player can attain which should go along with the highest accolades to go with it.
I feel like it's a category that most folks won't agree with u or hardly if ever use. What u are basically describing is what we folks call a nba champion. AI was considered a superstar but he never won it all, ditto for Charles Barkley. Just find it weird to make winning it all a criteria to b considered a superstar Being an mvp is literally the highest level of excellence an individual player can achieve, wait scratch that being a hall of famer is an even higher tier
i couldn't care less about most folks . its semantics but there's definitely more than 2 levels of merely superstar and star. There's no way I'm just putting players in 2 of these categories because over half the league doesn't even qualify for this
oh look who's quoting me again Klay has never won an mvp and never will. who also has never made all nba 1st team and also never will. clearly he isn't a superstar. He's an all star. that's what he is for his career
Exactly it weird semantics for u. I'm pretty sure if u poll the actual players themselves, James Harden was absolutely considered a superstar at one point in his career. Having to win it all to b considered a superstar is rubbish. Winning an mvp is literally one of the highest achievement u can earn as an individual player. Star is the one more loosely thrown around if anything.
u can’t seriously be trying to big up Roy Hibbert… c’mon Pele, cut it out he started 81 games on a trash 17-65 Lakers team and was atrocious on the court…you’re just posting anything now Roy Hibbert was literally out of the league after that season on the Nuggets, and we ain’t seen him since Jameer Nelson, another guy who lasted one more year in the league and we haven’t seen him again u just continue to make my point for me The hell are u trying to write? The only one replying with ridiculousness is u I clearly asked if that is the roster you’d expect to be 4th in offense and the BEST offense in the league post-ASB? Answer the damn question
you mean the players that would pick him last and poke fun at him year after year its not weird to me cause i understand theirs levels to this and you must accomplish certain accolades to attain status. That's just reality. weird to you because you just throw it around easily
Learn to read. James Harden was absolutely considered a superstar at one point in his career. U cant b a superstar forever, father time catches dem all
